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Old Jun 6th, 2013, 01:56 PM   #1
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The fall of political Islam

After decades of rising in middle east communities; app 35 years, the stupid ideas of political Islam or Islamism or Gama't are starting to fade and so fast.
I am happy about that, but we still need more effort and change to be better.
I think the turning point was actually their greed, they werent ready at all to rule Egypt. And that liar they call a president lol
I am happy, 10 months 10 years 20 years whatever, I can see from my living here in Egypt they are finished, their ideas don't have a place in the future.
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Old Jun 6th, 2013, 02:20 PM   #2
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Re: The fall of political Islam

It's called progress
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Re: The fall of political Islam

I've always felt its threat was exaggerated, but its capacity to do short-term damage was still very great.

I hope you and I are right.
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Re: The fall of political Islam

If only Nasserism (pan-Arab socialism) were to return!

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As long as oil prices remain high political Islam will be very viable.
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Re: The fall of political Islam

Im very Optimistic about the middle east, i know its hard to see a little sun in all the mess we have here but like Brandon Lee said in the movie the crow "It Can't Rain All The Time..."
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Re: The fall of political Islam

Political Islam was always a stupid concept. Religion is a personal thing and it means different things to different people, and people interpret it in unique ways. Muslims are no different in this regard.

With that in mind, it seems extraordinarily arrogant that politicians in certain countries see fit to impose their own religious views on entire countries. What is Sharia? There is no single, definitive Sharia. It is not collated together in bullet points. Muslims interpret it in vastly different ways, since Muhammad is no longer around to clarify exactly how it should be enforced.

As a result, it is left in the hands of politicians to decide what Sharia should entail. Who gave them such divine foresight? They are not imposing Sharia, they are imposing their own interpretation of Sharia.

Politics is dirty. When you mix Islam and politics together, Islam inevitably becomes tainted. And so it has.
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Outreach Meeting In Tenn. Clouded By Anti-Muslim Uproar

by Blake Farmer
June 10, 2013 3:00 PM
4 min 9 sec

The small town of Manchester, Tenn., is trying to figure out what happened this past week. Hundreds of activists heckled a U.S. Attorney who was making a speech on hate crimes and cheered as Muslims described the firebombing of a nearby mosque. The activists say they feel Islam is getting unfair preference by the U.S. government. Muslims say the incident shows they have lots of work to do.

Audio in link: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=190453539

(I presume it will be on Youtube soon enough)
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Im very Optimistic about the middle east, i know its hard to see a little sun in all the mess we have here but like Brandon Lee said in the movie the crow "It Can't Rain All The Time..."
I dont know where your Optimism comes from. Any Jewish leader who tries to make peace will be blown up like Rabin
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Politics is dirty. When you mix Islam and politics together, Islam inevitably becomes tainted. And so it has.
True. Thousands of years of the 'Christian Experiment' led to the Holocaust

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I dont know where your Optimism comes from. Any Jewish leader who tries to make peace will be blown up like Rabin
R.I.P Rabin He will be missed.
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If my country and Germany can be friends, if one if Japan's closest friends us the USA I'm totally full of faith and hope
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I've thought that as well. Add Vietnam and America, Britain and Germany etc.

I think Islam is a whole different matter and I am very pessimistic. Political Islam may (or may not) be on the decline in Islamic countries. I don't know. But it's on the increase in countries Muslims have emigrated to. Even Muslims state that many young Muslims (who are born in the West) develop a rose tinted fantasy view of life 'back home'. Add the fact we are now in the nuclear age and it wont be long before terrorists can get their mits on more dangerous weaponry.
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I've thought that as well. Add Vietnam and America, Britain and Germany etc.

I think Islam is a whole different matter and I am very pessimistic. Political Islam may (or may not) be on the decline in Islamic countries. I don't know. But it's on the increase in countries Muslims have emigrated to. Even Muslims state that many young Muslims (who are born in the West) develop a rose tinted fantasy view of life 'back home'. Add the fact we are now in the nuclear age and it wont be long before terrorists can get their mits on more dangerous weaponry.
i agree about that but i tend to believe things will work out, its part of my jewish nature, after akk, im here against all adds in my eyes Surrounded by a billion of ppl who arnt my friends and im still here so i thinkeverything start with Education.

if the young muslims wont get Education, wont be open to the world yes we have a problem but they will have a bigger one.

i think the world change Dramatically when the West ceases to be dependent on oil
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i dont believe that, take Menachem Begin for example
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i dont believe that, take Menachem Begin for example
Begin did something less wrenching, returning a Sinai peninsula to Egypt that hadn't let them win previous wars with Israel. And while nobody took a shot @ Arik Sharon for the Gaza withdrawal, the open demonstrations praying for his death (not long B4 the stroke that left him in a longterm coma) could have become an incitement to violence, but the Shin Bet were extra-vigilant because Rabin was slain.

Anyhow, doing a deal regarding the West Bank (so close to the narrow and heavily populated Jerusalem - Tel Aviv corridor) will be a lot tougher for an Israeli PM. Had Arafat accepted a Bill Clinton - George Mitchell brokered deal on that in 1999, PM Ehud Barak would have been in some danger, despite being the most decorated soldier in Israeli history.

And even Palestininian moderates had to reject all talk of a "quasi-state" with an Israeli veto ova its military, or sharing control of the Jordan River crossings (and Gaza to Sinai border) with Israel. The old dilemma Tom Friedman of the NY Times outlined still exists: out of having a Jewish identity, real democracy for all in land it controls, and military jurisdiction of all the land from the Sinai to the Jordan River, "Israel can have any two, but not all three".
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