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Old Sep 29th, 2009, 06:12 PM   #151
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Re: BOMBSHELL: PENNETTA's interview without taboos on sex and doping

I think what Flavia meants is that Serena is physically very strong compared to her. But it was indeed a very poor choice of words...
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Old Sep 29th, 2009, 06:12 PM   #152
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Re: BOMBSHELL: PENNETTA's interview without taboos on sex and doping

sorry they deleted your post!

Just calling it as it is. I totally believe Flavia had the best intentions here, though.

Oh well, I enjoyed her interview and it's fun to see her candidness about what goes on in the locker rooms.
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Old Sep 29th, 2009, 06:28 PM   #153
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Old Sep 29th, 2009, 06:52 PM   #154
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Re: BOMBSHELL: PENNETTA's interview without taboos on sex and doping

Flavia is the best and the prettiest and I like tenisplayers talkin "senza" "reparos".Its funny
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Old Sep 29th, 2009, 06:58 PM   #155
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Trashy. She looks the part.
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Old Sep 29th, 2009, 07:01 PM   #156
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I think what Flavia meants is that Serena is physically very strong compared to her. But it was indeed a very poor choice of words...
I don't speak Italian, but I believe Flavia would never use a pejorative description of someone like Serena in a TV interview.
Someone in USA could say for example "she's a monster" and be paying a compliment to the person. Then that comment would get translated to another language and be misconstrued as an insult because "monster" has only one meaning in that language.
I think Flavia meant just that when she said Serena is an "animal". It could be translated as "monster" and the spirit of the comment would be clearer to Americans.
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Old Sep 29th, 2009, 07:05 PM   #157
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Re: BOMBSHELL: PENNETTA's interview without taboos on sex and doping

Serena described herself as an animal on the court, incidentally. I don't think Flavia meant that Serena was strong physically, because she referenced the Italian players' lack of confidence straight afterwards. I think she meant her mentality (aggression/passion/ruthlesness).. like a predator targetting its prey. That statement in itself doesn't necessarily reflect any racism. You have to be in Flavia's head to make sure of that.
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Re: BOMBSHELL: PENNETTA's interview without taboos on sex and doping

People do understand that the interview was translated for ITALIAN and its not always easy to find the right word to traslate something from another language too, so she may not have actually even called Serena an animal anyway.
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Yeah, it's like Flavia is the only one being naughty among the WTA, the rest of these girls are saints
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Interesting insights from Flavia - sounds like there is almost as much grunting in the locker room as on the court these days!


And as for the Fran 'appuntamento hard', presumably there will be a few more men on outside courts clapping wildly from now on, maybe it will work again!!
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Calling a black person an "animal" can easily be construed as racist or offensive because this was how blacks were historically characterized by whites. It is either poor choice of metaphor or an indication that there's a hint of prejudicial attitude in Flavia, although it is obvious that Flavia isn't a bigot. We all have our small degree of prejudice in us if we're honest with ourselves IMHO.

I'm not trying to blow it out of proportion, but I do find that her choice of the words to be in poor taste.
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She didn't want to offend Serena at all, in Italy we can say to someone "you are an animal" on a facetious note, but she should have chosen another word
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Serena described herself as an animal on the court, incidentally. I don't think Flavia meant that Serena was strong physically, because she referenced the Italian players' lack of confidence straight afterwards. I think she meant her mentality (aggression/passion/ruthlesness).. like a predator targetting its prey. That statement in itself doesn't necessarily reflect any racism. You have to be in Flavia's head to make sure of that.
so true: Flavia was not racist at all...
but that word is not very elegant
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i don't unnderstand how could she has sex in the lockerroom? she did not mind other girls watching?

she's also shameless then

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Flavia is so classy.
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tonight we'll watch the whole interview...anyway i cannot understand why so many bad comments...she took part at a tv show where sex is the most common topic...
most of the best italian sports men went there and did similar interviews (Carolina Kostner and her BF Alex Schwazer, Pellegrini...), it's all really funny
Pellegrini talked of sex in every interview,not only with le iene

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And as for the Fran 'appuntamento hard', presumably there will be a few more men on outside courts clapping wildly from now on, maybe it will work again!!


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Calling a black person an "animal" can easily be construed as racist or offensive because this was how blacks were historically characterized by whites. It is either poor choice of metaphor or an indication that there's a hint of prejudicial attitude in Flavia, although it is obvious that Flavia isn't a bigot. We all have our small degree of prejudice in us if we're honest with ourselves IMHO.

I'm not trying to blow it out of proportion, but I do find that her choice of the words to be in poor taste.
every language is different,you can't call flavia a racist because EVERY time they ask her who are the best players on tour she always says Williams and no one else.animal is more for her force and mental toughness so

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