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mdterp01 · Jul 13th, 2009, 09:28 PM

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/130720...gs-system.html

I'm sorry yall...I know this is like beating a dead horse (ducks the tennis balls beiing thrown at me) but just figured I would post this. I mean she's right. I know that in the whole rankings dispute I have always said that look...the system is what it is. There is more to the season than the 4 grand slams (i.e. 8 weeks). It is a 52 week
system that rewards someone who played enough and either gets deep in enough tournaments and/or wins enough that they can achieve the #1 ranking without winning any of the slams. Again, there is a difference between a computer #1 and who the best player in the world is. I don't think it should even be an argument. Instead of Serena saying "we know who the real #1 is" she should've said like she's said in the past that she believes she is the best player in the world. Cuz there is clearly a difference.

Safina is #1 based on the ranking system. Its not her design so I don't get why she gets so much flack for it. She is the beneficiery of the system, whether we think its a flawed system or not. It doesn't make her look good when she gets whipped in the finals of slams and only wins 1 game in the semifinals of a slam, but she was consistent enough last year to grab the #1 ranking. I don't know. If people would just understand the difference between #1 and the best player in the world, I think this argument can just go away. I would like to see the majors have more points though and I think it was a bad idea getting rid of quality points when you beat top ranked players.

Sally Struthers · Jul 13th, 2009, 09:35 PM

that hairstyle on her is not flattering at all

StephenUK · Jul 13th, 2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mdterp01

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/130720...gs-system.html

I'm sorry yall...I know this is like beating a dead horse (ducks the tennis balls beiing thrown at me) but just figured I would post this. I mean she's right. I know that in the whole rankings dispute I have always said that look...the system is what it is. There is more to the season than the 4 grand slams (i.e. 8 weeks). It is a 52 week
system that rewards someone who played enough and either gets deep in enough tournaments and/or wins enough that they can achieve the #1 ranking without winning any of the slams. Again, there is a difference between a computer #1 and who the best player in the world is. I don't think it should even be an argument. Instead of Serena saying "we know who the real #1 is" she should've said like she's said in the past that she believes she is the best player in the world. Cuz there is clearly a difference.

Safina is #1 based on the ranking system. Its not her design so I don't get why she gets so much flack for it. She is the beneficiery of the system, whether we think its a flawed system or not. It doesn't make her look good when she gets whipped in the finals of slams and only wins 1 game in the semifinals of a slam, but she was consistent enough last year to grab the #1 ranking. I don't know. If people would just understand the difference between #1 and the best player in the world, I think this argument can just go away. I would like to see the majors have more points though and I think it was a bad idea getting rid of quality points when you beat top ranked players.

She has to defend the ranking system because she is WTA tour chief. If you say, it is only the slams that count, then the rest of the tour and her job become redundant.
Everyone knows Serena is the best but she needs to win more WTA events on top of those 3 GS to deserve that top ranking, cf
Navratilova 83 3 GS + 13 WTA
Graf 89 3 GS + 11 WTA
Seles 91 3 GS + 7 WTA
Seles 92 3 GS + 7 WTA
Graf 95 3 GS + 6 WTA
Graf 96 3 GS + 4 WTA
Hingis 97 3 GS + 9 WTA
Serena 02 3 GS + 5 WTA

Szczecin · Jul 14th, 2009, 02:41 AM

She mentioned Elena as a drawcard...

She gets my vote

Volcana · Jul 14th, 2009, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mdterp01

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/130720...gs-system.html

That wasn't a defense of the ranking system. It was an explanation.

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Originally Posted by mdterp01

If people would just understand the difference between #1 and the best player in the world, I think this argument can just go away.

That would require that people actually think. Not much, I grant you, but the challenge is clearly too much for a lot of people.

mr_burns · Jul 14th, 2009, 06:00 AM

I like sche mentions the 3 top stars and as the next one elenea;-))

what elso should she say about the ranking? WTA can close the doors when it is only about slams ranking wise

Sharapower · Jul 14th, 2009, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Volcana

That would require that people actually think. Not much, I grant you, but the challenge is clearly too much for a lot of people.

"Think"? Whatdaheck is that?

ClaudiaZ-S · Jul 14th, 2009, 12:01 PM

Serena lost early in FO... Safin made the final...

TSequoia01 · Jul 14th, 2009, 01:23 PM

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Serena lost early in FO... Safin made the final...

Not sure what your point was here, she made the quarters, but Serena knows the rules. I noticed early on that Serena did not like playing the low paying tournies. She would only play tier II and up. It probably had to do with recurring injuries so playing low tiered tournies was just not worth it from her point of view.

Kworb · Jul 14th, 2009, 01:30 PM

Indeed, Safina is without question the best player in the world right now. Serena may have won the Slams but she is unable to bring that level to other events, so if you look at the whole picture, Safina is better than Serena at the moment.

Wiggly · Jul 14th, 2009, 01:33 PM

I guess Rome and Madrid paid her 10K each to say those things.

TSequoia01 · Jul 14th, 2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kworb

Indeed, Safina is without question the best player in the world right now. Serena may have won the Slams but she is unable to bring that level to other events, so if you look at the whole picture, Safina is better than Serena at the moment.

No Safina has more points than Serena, she is definitely not a better player. Not at the moment not ever.

Kworb · Jul 14th, 2009, 01:57 PM

This year Serena is 32-8 (80.0%) and Safina is 42-9 (82.4%). Serena had awful losses like against Zakopalova and Schiavone. It's not about how good they are at their peak, it's about how good they are in general. Serena is like coitus interruptus, she has a high failure rate but when it works the results are spectacular. Safina is like a condom, you can always count on her. Now which contraceptive is better?

brickhousesupporter · Jul 14th, 2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kworb

Indeed, Safina is without question the best player in the world right now. Serena may have won the Slams but she is unable to bring that level to other events, so if you look at the whole picture, Safina is better than Serena at the moment.

Why are you trying to create controversy where none exist.....Safina is the number 1 ranked player right now now....Lets leave it at that.

Yonexforever · Jul 14th, 2009, 02:21 PM

Serena is like coitus interruptus, she has a high failure rate but when it works the results are spectacular. Safina is like a condom, you can always count on her. Now which contraceptive is better?

Best line i have heard in quite some time..