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Navratil · Mar 20th, 2009, 08:28 AM

I just don't understand this: How is it possible that a top-ten-player serves like Radwanska does?

The technique is horrible and some male club-players serve better than that.

No speed, no variaty, no consistency, no nothing!

Well, she's not the tallest but why doesn't she work on that?

And Radwanska is not the only example. Hingis was such a gifted player but her serve was so bad. She didn't change anything since she was 12! Maybe that's the key: Girls start to early and never work on their serves again. Maybe they think it not worth it: "I need to work so much to serve 10 % better".
But I do believe that the serve is the most important shot in tennis! It's the only shot that is not influenced by your opponent. Thank god, a lot of female players understood that too.

Williamsser · Mar 20th, 2009, 08:35 AM

Women's serves are a joke.

simplydeep · Mar 20th, 2009, 08:41 AM

yes i agree that her serve is rubbish expect as she attempts to stay in the top ten she will have to improve that, this is what happens girl rocket down the rankings with a good game no half complete. You can however get away with a rubbish serve becuase thye cover it up by being ready to move for the return. She has a serve like hingis soft opt m ore for direction than bot together and get away with it because most returns do nothing with it. There does come come an opponent that does expose that but not too mant do to force her to better her serve, that is why.

Wojtek · Mar 20th, 2009, 08:42 AM

It's not only Radwanska who has bad serve. Jankovic, Dementieva, Bartoli have very bad serve. They don't know what it is kick serve.

The Dawntreader · Mar 20th, 2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Heninjust

Women's serves are a joke.

In general?

Venus, Serena, Petrova, Sharapova, Stosur, Davenport, Vaidisova.

Yeah, universally women's serves are a joke(!)

QUEENLINDSAY · Mar 20th, 2009, 08:51 AM

I don't get it either. Why are some top ten players can get away with it? It wouldn't happen in the mens field.

QUEENLINDSAY · Mar 20th, 2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dl05

In general?

Venus, Serena, Petrova, Sharapova, Stosur, Davenport, Vaidisova.

Yeah, universally women's serves are a joke(!)

put in Justine, Maria and Alicia on this list.

The Dawntreader · Mar 20th, 2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by QUEENLINDSAY

put in Justine, Maria and Alicia on this list.

Well Justine's serving could come and go, by far the weakest element in her game. That's only comparitively speaking though.

Alicia had a great serve, so yes she would go in. I did mention Maria

Direwolf · Mar 20th, 2009, 09:13 AM

because they can outplay about 80 percent of the tour!!

QUEENLINDSAY · Mar 20th, 2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dl05

Well Justine's serving could come and go, by far the weakest element in her game. That's only comparitively speaking though.

Alicia had a great serve, so yes she would go in. I did mention Maria

Justine's serve is underrated because of how good she is. She is definitely one of the best servers I know specially during her peak period. It may not be her natural talent but she made it there, top list of good servers.

SM · Mar 20th, 2009, 09:23 AM

No one mentioned Mary Pierce

SM · Mar 20th, 2009, 09:25 AM

the thread starter has a point...

weve named alot of players with good serves, but good is a relative term...and its only good relative to the other serves on womens tour most of which s*ck

QUEENLINDSAY · Mar 20th, 2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SM

the thread starter has a point...

weve named alot of players with good serves, but good is a relative term...and its only good relative to the other serves on womens tour most of which s*ck

exactly! Those serves of the women that's on the list are the only one's which deserves to be in a professional sport.
Maybe the reason why women can get away with a weak serve in womens professional tennis is because women players are generally wear returners too?
Or maybe those players who made it to the top with bad serves are great on groundstrokes, like Dementieva?

Shonami Slam · Mar 20th, 2009, 09:48 AM

less hight means you need more percentage to clear the net, meaning slower, or higher clearing of the net.

why they don't hit the kicker is a better question, but in general - the girls reaching 6'0 foot/180 CM and higher usually own a pretty useful first serve, and they usually rack up the second one quite nicely too.

judging the top10 to all own great serves is pointless. Karlovic has a mch better serve than Simon, yet no one is really expecting him to challenge federer, murray and nadal back to back as simon already has.

perhaps in men's tennis, the vice-versa is more common:
"how can a player with such awful ground strokes get to the top10 with serve alone"?

crazillo · Mar 20th, 2009, 12:45 PM

Serving is the most important part in tennis.I agree that Radwanska's serve really shocked me, espacially her second serve: there was no depth, no consistency.

I think Sandrine Testud had a great second kick serve.