
Dec 3rd, 2008, 09:58 PM

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Old PAW Ranking Points Distribution (Superseded from 2013)
The following ranking points distribution should be allocated for the various PAW tournaments in 2009:
Grand Slams (winner : 1000 pts, 184 players)
Code:
1st  1000 ...... 47th  53 ...... 93rd  18 ...... 139th  7
2nd  700 ...... 48th  52 ...... 94th  18 ...... 140th  7
3rd  520 ...... 49th  51 ...... 95th  17 ...... 141st  7
4th  405 ...... 50th  50 ...... 96th  17 ...... 142nd  6
5th  330 ...... 51st  49 ...... 97th  17 ...... 143rd  6
6th  290 ...... 52nd  48 ...... 98th  16 ...... 144th  6
7th  250 ...... 53rd  47 ...... 99th  16 ...... 145th  6
8th  215 ...... 54th  46 ...... 100th  16 ...... 146th  6
9th  190 ...... 55th  44 ...... 101st  16 ...... 147th  5
10th  179 ...... 56th  43 ...... 102nd  15 ...... 148th  5
11th  169 ...... 57th  42 ...... 103rd  15 ...... 149th  5
12th  159 ...... 58th  40 ...... 104th  15 ...... 150th  5
13th  149 ...... 59th  39 ...... 105th  14 ...... 151st  5
14th  139 ...... 60th  38 ...... 106th  14 ...... 152nd  5
15th  129 ...... 61st  37 ...... 107th  14 ...... 153rd  4
16th  119 ...... 62nd  36 ...... 108th  14 ...... 154th  4
17th  115 ...... 63rd  35 ...... 109th  13 ...... 155th  4
18th  112 ...... 64th  34 ...... 110th  13 ...... 156th  4
19th  109 ...... 65th  33 ...... 111th  13 ...... 157th  4
20th  106 ...... 66th  32 ...... 112th  13 ...... 158th  4
21st  103 ...... 67th  31 ...... 113th  12 ...... 159th  4
22nd  100 ...... 68th  30 ...... 114th  12 ...... 160th  3
23rd  97 ...... 69th  29 ...... 115th  12 ...... 161st  3
24th  94 ...... 70th  28 ...... 116th  12 ...... 162nd  3
25th  91 ...... 71st  27 ...... 117th  11 ...... 163rd  3
26th  88 ...... 72nd  26 ...... 118th  11 ...... 164th  3
27th  85 ...... 73rd  26 ...... 119th  11 ...... 165th  3
28th  83 ...... 74th  25 ...... 120th  11 ...... 166th  3
29th  80 ...... 75th  25 ...... 121st  11 ...... 167th  3
30th  80 ...... 76th  24 ...... 122nd  10 ...... 168th  3
31st  78 ...... 77th  24 ...... 123rd  10 ...... 169th  2
32nd  76 ...... 78th  24 ...... 124th  10 ...... 170th  2
33rd  73 ...... 79th  23 ...... 125th  10 ...... 171st  2
34th  70 ...... 80th  23 ...... 126th  10 ...... 172nd  2
35th  68 ...... 81st  22 ...... 127th  9 ...... 173rd  2
36th  66 ...... 82nd  22 ...... 128th  9 ...... 174th  2
37th  64 ...... 83rd  21 ...... 129th  9 ...... 175th  2
38th  63 ...... 84th  21 ...... 130th  9 ...... 176th  2
39th  62 ...... 85th  21 ...... 131st  9 ...... 177th  1
40th  61 ...... 86th  20 ...... 132nd  8 ...... 178th  1
41st  60 ...... 87th  20 ...... 133rd  8 ...... 179th  1
42nd  60 ...... 88th  20 ...... 134th  8 ...... 180th  1
43rd  59 ...... 89th  19 ...... 135th  8 ...... 181st  1
44th  57 ...... 90th  19 ...... 136th  7 ...... 182nd  1
45th  56 ...... 91st  19 ...... 137th  7 ...... 183rd  1
46th  54 ...... 92nd  18 ...... 138th  7 ...... 184th  1
Premier Mandatory (winner : 500 pts, 128 players)
Code:
1st  500 ...... 33rd  34 ...... 65th  16 ...... 97th  6
2nd  350 ...... 34th  33 ...... 66th  16 ...... 98th  6
3rd  260 ...... 35th  32 ...... 67th  15 ...... 99th  6
4th  200 ...... 36th  31 ...... 68th  15 ...... 100th  6
5th  160 ...... 37th  30 ...... 69th  15 ...... 101st  6
6th  140 ...... 38th  29 ...... 70th  14 ...... 102nd  5
7th  120 ...... 39th  28 ...... 71st  14 ...... 103rd  5
8th  100 ...... 40th  27 ...... 72nd  14 ...... 104th  5
9th  90 ...... 41st  26 ...... 73rd  13 ...... 105th  5
10th  82 ...... 42nd  25 ...... 74th  13 ...... 106th  5
11th  77 ...... 43rd  25 ...... 75th  13 ...... 107th  4
12th  72 ...... 44th  24 ...... 76th  12 ...... 108th  4
13th  68 ...... 45th  24 ...... 77th  12 ...... 109th  4
14th  64 ...... 46th  23 ...... 78th  12 ...... 110th  4
15th  60 ...... 47th  23 ...... 79th  11 ...... 111th  4
16th  57 ...... 48th  22 ...... 80th  11 ...... 112th  3
17th  54 ...... 49th  22 ...... 81st  11 ...... 113th  3
18th  51 ...... 50th  21 ...... 82nd  10 ...... 114th  3
19th  49 ...... 51st  21 ...... 83rd  10 ...... 115th  3
20th  47 ...... 52nd  20 ...... 84th  10 ...... 116th  3
21st  46 ...... 53rd  20 ...... 85th  9 ...... 117th  2
22nd  45 ...... 54th  20 ...... 86th  9 ...... 118th  2
23rd  44 ...... 55th  19 ...... 87th  9 ...... 119th  2
24th  43 ...... 56th  19 ...... 88th  9 ...... 120th  2
25th  42 ...... 57th  19 ...... 89th  8 ...... 121st  2
26th  41 ...... 58th  18 ...... 90th  8 ...... 122nd  2
27th  40 ...... 59th  18 ...... 91st  8 ...... 123rd  1
28th  39 ...... 60th  18 ...... 92nd  8 ...... 124th  1
29th  38 ...... 61st  17 ...... 93rd  7 ...... 125th  1
30th  37 ...... 62nd  17 ...... 94th  7 ...... 126th  1
31st  36 ...... 63rd  17 ...... 95th  7 ...... 127th  1
32nd  35 ...... 64th  16 ...... 96th  7 ...... 128th  1
Premier 5 (winner : 430 pts, 96 players)
Code:
1st  430 ...... 25th  39 ...... 49th  16 ...... 73rd  7
2nd  300 ...... 26th  38 ...... 50th  16 ...... 74th  6
3rd  225 ...... 27th  37 ...... 51st  15 ...... 75th  6
4th  175 ...... 28th  36 ...... 52nd  15 ...... 76th  6
5th  140 ...... 29th  35 ...... 53rd  14 ...... 77th  5
6th  125 ...... 30th  34 ...... 54th  14 ...... 78th  5
7th  110 ...... 31st  33 ...... 55th  13 ...... 79th  5
8th  95 ...... 32nd  32 ...... 56th  13 ...... 80th  5
9th  84 ...... 33rd  31 ...... 57th  12 ...... 81st  4
10th  78 ...... 34th  30 ...... 58th  12 ...... 82nd  4
11th  73 ...... 35th  29 ...... 59th  11 ...... 83rd  4
12th  68 ...... 36th  28 ...... 60th  11 ...... 84th  4
13th  64 ...... 37th  27 ...... 61st  11 ...... 85th  3
14th  60 ...... 38th  26 ...... 62nd  10 ...... 86th  3
15th  56 ...... 39th  25 ...... 63rd  10 ...... 87th  3
16th  53 ...... 40th  24 ...... 64th  10 ...... 88th  3
17th  50 ...... 41st  23 ...... 65th  9 ...... 89th  2
18th  47 ...... 42nd  22 ...... 66th  9 ...... 90th  2
19th  45 ...... 43rd  21 ...... 67th  9 ...... 91st  2
20th  44 ...... 44th  20 ...... 68th  8 ...... 92nd  2
21st  43 ...... 45th  19 ...... 69th  8 ...... 93rd  1
22nd  42 ...... 46th  18 ...... 70th  8 ...... 94th  1
23rd  41 ...... 47th  17 ...... 71st  7 ...... 95th  1
24th  40 ...... 48th  17 ...... 72nd  7 ...... 96th  1
Premier (winner : 275 pts, 80 players)
Code:
1st  275 ...... 21st  27 ...... 41st  12 ...... 61st  5
2nd  190 ...... 22nd  26 ...... 42nd  12 ...... 62nd  5
3rd  143 ...... 23rd  25 ...... 43rd  11 ...... 63rd  5
4th  111 ...... 24th  24 ...... 44th  11 ...... 64th  5
5th  91 ...... 25th  23 ...... 45th  11 ...... 65th  4
6th  80 ...... 26th  22 ...... 46th  10 ...... 66th  4
7th  70 ...... 27th  21 ...... 47th  10 ...... 67th  4
8th  61 ...... 28th  20 ...... 48th  10 ...... 68th  4
9th  53 ...... 29th  19 ...... 49th  9 ...... 69th  3
10th  50 ...... 30th  18 ...... 50th  9 ...... 70th  3
11th  47 ...... 31st  17 ...... 51st  9 ...... 71st  3
12th  44 ...... 32nd  17 ...... 52nd  8 ...... 72nd  3
13th  41 ...... 33rd  16 ...... 53rd  8 ...... 73rd  2
14th  38 ...... 34th  16 ...... 54th  8 ...... 74th  2
15th  35 ...... 35th  15 ...... 55th  7 ...... 75th  2
16th  33 ...... 36th  15 ...... 56th  7 ...... 76th  2
17th  31 ...... 37th  14 ...... 57th  7 ...... 77th  1
18th  30 ...... 38th  14 ...... 58th  6 ...... 78th  1
19th  29 ...... 39th  13 ...... 59th  6 ...... 79th  1
20th  28 ...... 40th  13 ...... 60th  6 ...... 80th  1
International (winner : 140 pts, 64 players)
Code:
1st  140 ...... 17th  16 ...... 33rd  9 ...... 49th  4
2nd  100 ...... 18th  16 ...... 34th  9 ...... 50th  4
3rd  74 ...... 19th  15 ...... 35th  9 ...... 51st  4
4th  58 ...... 20th  15 ...... 36th  8 ...... 52nd  4
5th  47 ...... 21st  14 ...... 37rd  8 ...... 53rd  3
6th  41 ...... 22nd  14 ...... 38th  8 ...... 54th  3
7th  35 ...... 23rd  13 ...... 39th  7 ...... 55th  3
8th  30 ...... 24th  13 ...... 40th  7 ...... 56th  3
9th  26 ...... 25th  12 ...... 41st  7 ...... 57th  2
10th  24 ...... 26th  12 ...... 42nd  6 ...... 58th  2
11th  22 ...... 27th  11 ...... 43rd  6 ...... 59th  2
12th  20 ...... 28th  11 ...... 44th  6 ...... 60th  2
13th  19 ...... 29th  11 ...... 45st  5 ...... 61st  1
14th  18 ...... 30th  10 ...... 46th  5 ...... 62nd  1
15th  17 ...... 31st  10 ...... 47th  5 ...... 63rd  1
16th  17 ...... 32nd  10 ...... 48th  5 ...... 64th  1
YEC's (winner : 750 pts, 16 players)
Code:
1st  750 ..... 5th  300 ..... 9th  177 ..... 13th  140
2nd  525 ..... 6th  262 ..... 10th  168 ..... 14th  131
3rd  431 ..... 7th  225 ..... 11th  159 ..... 15th  121
4th  337 ..... 8th  187 ..... 12th  150 ..... 16th  112
TOC's (winner : 275 pts, 16 players)
Code:
1st  275 ..... 5th  160 ..... 9th  100 ..... 13th  65
2nd  225 ..... 6th  140 ..... 10th  90 ...... 14th  60
3rd  200 ..... 7th  125 ..... 11th  80 ...... 15th  55
4th  180 ..... 8th  110 ..... 12th  70 ...... 16th  50
ITF Challenger (winner : 75 pts, 32 players)
Code:
1st  75 ...... 9th  14 ...... 17th  5 ...... 25th  2
2nd  55 ...... 10th  12 ...... 18th  5 ...... 26th  2
3rd  40 ...... 11th  11 ...... 19th  4 ...... 27th  2
4th  31 ...... 12th  10 ...... 20th  4 ...... 28th  2
5th  25 ...... 13th  9 ...... 21st  4 ...... 29th  2
6th  22 ...... 14th  8 ...... 22nd  3 ...... 30th  1
7th  19 ...... 15th  7 ...... 23rd  3 ...... 31st  1
8th  16 ...... 16th  6 ...... 24th  3 ...... 32nd  1
Last edited by sdtoot : Dec 26th, 2012 at 08:00 PM.
Reason: ITF Challenger points added



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Dec 7th, 2008, 04:46 AM

#2

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Re: 2009 PAW Ranking Points Distribution
We should either double the 2008 points or split in half the 2009 points. Since all the numbers here are even (no qualies or 1st round losses ), I suggest we'll be smarter than WTA management (not a great deal to do) and choose the latter option. It would make calculations easier instead of this artificial doubling.
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost....6&postcount=53
If opinions are varied about this then a poll should be made.



Dec 7th, 2008, 10:29 PM

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Re: 2009 PAW Ranking Points Distribution
The WTA has produced the ranking points for the five different status tournaments in the 2009 WTA calendar on page 196 of the 2009 WTA Rules book. Basically, they have more or less doubled the old rankings points for the GS, Tier 1, Tier 2 and Tier 3 events with exception being the Premier Mandatory events which carry slightly higher ranking points than the Premier 5.
The ranking points shown in post 1 are more or less the same ranking points we had last year for the GS, T1, T2 and T3 PAW tournaments but multiplied by 2 (hence why all are even numbers). If we decide to go with these new ranking points, then I could insert some odd numbers to provide a better taper of the points.
The question's we need to answer are:
1. Do we more or less stick with last years PAW ranking points and basically halve the ranking points in post 1? This will make FrOzons job a lot easier with respect to integrating the new WTA schedule into the entry ranking points tables.
2. Do we bite the bullet now and go with the new WTA ranking points system (i.e. double points as shown in post 1) for the start of 2009? If we go down this route, FrOzon will probably need to double all the entry rankings points scored in 2008 in order to give a smooth integration of the higher scoring points for 2009.
As I see it, if we go with option 1, at some point in the future, the PAW players will start to ask why the PAW scoring points are only half that of the WTA ranking points system and to make life easier, we would probably have to adopt the new ranking points eventually.
If we go with option 2, there is initially a lot of work for FrOzon to double up all the entry ranking points for 2008, but things should then run smoothly for 2009 and beyond.
Therefore, if FrOzon is happy carry out the work to update the ranking points, then my preference would be Option 2. Otherwise we go with option 1.
It would be good to get all managers/players opinions on this subject before the 2009 season starts.



Dec 23rd, 2008, 03:40 PM

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Re: 2009 PAW Ranking Points Distribution
OK, as the 2009 season starts in less than 2 weeks, and there hasn't been much opinion on whether we should try to adopt the new 2009 WTA ranking points, I feel that we would be better to stick with a similar ranking points structure to 2008. For example:
Grand Slams  Winner 1000 pts, 184 players, as per Grand Slams 2008.
Premier Mandatory  Winner 500 pts, 128 players, as per Tier I 2008 but with marginally higher points.
Premier 5  Winner 430 pts, 96 players, as per Tier I 2008.
Premier  Winner 275 pts, 80 players, as per Tier II 2008.
International  Winner 140 pts, 64 players, as per Tier III 2008.
YEC's  Winner 750 pts, 16 players, as per YEC's 2008.
By keeping with the 2008 ranking points structure, the current PAW entry rankings tables will not require any adjustment and this will make FrOzon's job much easier for the 2009 rankings tables.
The points tables in post #1 have now been modified and should be used for the 2009 PAW season.
Last edited by sdtoot : Dec 23rd, 2008 at 04:14 PM.



Dec 28th, 2008, 11:42 AM

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Re: 2009 PAW Ranking Points Distribution
Thanks sdtoot for all your effort! Of course, sticking to the old point structure is the easiest way but "doubling" all old points and using a new (consistent) point structure would also be ok.



Aug 10th, 2009, 11:58 PM

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Re: 2009 PAW Ranking Points Distribution
how about SEC Bali?
Thanks
Buitenzorg



Aug 25th, 2012, 10:42 PM

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Re: Current PAW Ranking Points Distribution
Food for thought for next year:
I'm not sure whether the number of players in the tables was decided in the short period the cutoff system was in place, but 184 for Grand Slams makes no sense, it should be 128 at most (and perhaps we should even have two tables for majors and PM, of 96 and 128 players, and use one in correlation to the actual number of players that are playing, but that is a more radical change).
Anyway, sadly we rarely get to a 100 participants even in majors, and the result is that the last place finisher gets about 25 ranking points, equivalent to a top 10 finish in Int or a top half finish in a Premier, which is somewhat absurd.



Aug 25th, 2012, 11:15 PM

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Re: Current PAW Ranking Points Distribution
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archer16
Food for thought for next year:
I'm not sure whether the number of players in the tables was decided in the short period the cutoff system was in place, but 184 for Grand Slams makes no sense, it should be 128 at most (and perhaps we should even have two tables for majors and PM, of 96 and 128 players, and use one in correlation to the actual number of players that are playing, but that is a more radical change).
Anyway, sadly we rarely get to a 100 participants even in majors, and the result is that the last place finisher gets about 25 ranking points, equivalent to a top 10 finish in Int or a top half finish in a Premier, which is somewhat absurd.

I agree, this is something which the new PAW Board can discuss in the offseason and bring the scoring tables more into line with the current numbers of active PAW players.




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