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Old Sep 11th, 2008, 08:23 AM   #1
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The Williams recent success is due to the retirement/sidelining of their major rivals

I dont want to show a disrespect for 2008 Wimbledon and USOpen performances of Serena and Venus. They won the trophies fair and fair. However, the WTA is in a truly awful state. Take a look at the condition of the former rivals and supposed up-and-coming challengers and tell me the Williams arent beneficiaries:


Kim Clijsters: Quit the WTA at age 23
Justine Henin: Quit the WTA at age 25 (after owning Williams in '07)
Masha Sharapova: 2008 has been a non-year for her after Aus Open
Ana Ivanovic: Played like average Top 30 player at Wimby/USO
Amelie Mauresmo: Satisfied & complacent with her 2 GS in '06
Nicole Vaidisova: Supposed next WTA big star is a train wreck
Tati Golovin: Repeated injuries destroy her chances to be top player
Sveta Kuznetsova: Appears simply not to give a damn
Jelena Jankovic: The weakest #1 player in the history of pro tennis
Anna Chakvetadze: Her 2007 successes now appear simply a fluke
Martina Hingis: Her comeback had potential but ended with a thud

not to mention smaller scale disasters of players once touted as the "future of womens tennis" like Shahar Peer, Sania Mirza, Michaella Krajicek, Tamira Paszek, Lucie Safarova, etc. If the WTA was in any kind of normal shape I doubt the Williams would be able to winning GS titles, except maybe at Wimby. Safina and Dementieva are really the only players this year performing up to standard, but both suffer from serious built-in weaknesses that kept them from winning a GS this year.

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Old Sep 11th, 2008, 08:27 AM   #2
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Funniest thread of the year..


ps:- Just for the note, WS >>>>>>>> all the people you mentioned COMBINED
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Old Sep 11th, 2008, 08:31 AM   #3
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Re: The Williams recent success is due to the retirement/sidelining of their major ri

Maybe..but the funny thing is: Those rival were supposed to outlast the sisters.
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Old Sep 11th, 2008, 08:33 AM   #4
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Great OP.
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Old Sep 11th, 2008, 08:35 AM   #5
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Re: The Williams recent success is due to the retirement/sidelining of their major ri

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Maybe..but the funny thing is: Those rival were supposed to outlast the sisters.

that's my point. The whole tour has crumbled apart, both the old and young generations. It's absolutley scary what has happened to the WTA in the last few years.
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Safina and Dementieva are really the only players this year performing up to standard, but both suffer from serious built-in weaknesses that kept them from winning a GS this year.
I'd say Safina is overperforming. That's all I want to add.
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Old Sep 11th, 2008, 08:44 AM   #7
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Re: The Williams recent success is due to the retirement/sidelining of their major ri

WTA sucks this days so much but they were the best at Wimbledon and Us Open. I just don't see better player at Wimbledon then Williams and Serena was too good in NY.

Probably Venus or Serena would win Wimbledon anyway but i don't think Serena would win Us Open with Clijsters, Henin, Sharapova and Mauresmo in top form.
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I was waiting for this thread to appear. In fact I was tempted to start one, just to see the havoc it would cause.
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Old Sep 11th, 2008, 08:51 AM   #9
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Re: The Williams recent success is due to the retirement/sidelining of their major ri

Yes, Williams sisters have benefited esp since Henin's game evaporated between Nov. 2007 and Jan 2008 and she retired eventually. A Justine and Serena rivalry would have kept WTA alive. May be ivanovic would not have become no. 1 and would not have lost the confidence.
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WTA sucks this days so much but they were the best at Wimbledon and Us Open. I just don't see better player at Wimbledon then Williams and Serena was too good in NY.

Probably Venus or Serena would win Wimbledon anyway but i don't think Serena would win Us Open with Clijsters, Henin, Sharapova and Mauresmo in top form.
Can you imagine what will happen if Williams Sisters always in top form?
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Re: The Williams recent success is due to the retirement/sidelining of their major ri

I think only Henin could withstand Williams sisters. Other players depending on their days on and Williamses off.
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Re: The Williams recent success is due to the retirement/sidelining of their major ri

Were winning before, during and after..
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Old Sep 11th, 2008, 09:56 AM   #13
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Can you imagine what will happen if Williams Sisters always in top form?
Yes great tennis. Henin, Clijsters, Sharapova, Mauremso in top form = classic matches.
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considering how Serena just absolutely PWND Henin in Miami, I seriously doubt Juju wanted to See Serena on another hardcourt, but you know what, I'll give you the whole Serena thing and Henin not being around, cause no one can argue with how Juju PWND Serena last year at the slams, so..., "sauce for the goose," so to speak. VENUS, however, makes your claim look ridiculous, at least as far as Wimby is concerned. Venus has OWNED Wimby no matter who the comer. When she didn't she was injured or grieving. So, your claim holds no water when it comes to Vee and Wimby.
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Serena and Venus win a major 2 seasons in a row and some people think about how weak the Womens game is dead.

Shut up for once the WS are champions stop acting like they are scrubs and cant win anything if thier rivals are playing
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