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Old Jan 31st, 2013, 12:07 AM   #4081
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Re: Fed Cup Thread : WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

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Als ob Doppelergebnisse bei solchen Turniere irgendeine Bedeutung hätten
Also wenn es ein Doppel gibt, dass das Doppelspielen ernst nimmt, dann mit Sicherheit Errani/Vinci...
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Old Jan 31st, 2013, 12:09 AM   #4082
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Re: Fed Cup Thread : WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

Doppel bei WTA-Turnieren mit der No-Ad-Regel und dem Roulette-Spiel namens Match-TB, kann man nicht mehr ernst nehmen.

Bei GS gibt es diesen Blödsinn ja zum Glück nicht.
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Old Jan 31st, 2013, 12:19 AM   #4083
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Doppel bei WTA-Turnieren mit der No-Ad-Regel und dem Roulette-Spiel namens Match-TB, kann man nicht mehr ernst nehmen.

Bei GS gibt es diesen Blödsinn ja zum Glück nicht.
Ich mag die Regelung auch nicht, aber diese Aussage strotzt vor Arroganz und Überheblichkeit: Nur weil es irgendein Forum-User nicht ernst nehmen kann, heißt es nicht, dass es das weltbeste Damendoppel auch nicht kann...

Und das ist ja letztendlich entscheidend...
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Old Jan 31st, 2013, 12:23 AM   #4084
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Re: Fed Cup Thread : WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

Vor 1997 hat noch jedes Turnier für das Ranking gezählt, weil es das sehr gute Durchschnittssystem bei der Berechnung der Weltrangliste gab. Heute bei Best-of-..... kann ich auch abschenken bei normalen Turnieren, ohne dass das jetzt groß Konsequenzen für mein Ranking hat. Das gilt insbesondere auch für das Doppel.

Letztlich haben sie aber das Match gewonnen, also weiß ich nicht, worüber wir hier eigentlich diskutieren. Wie man gewinnt, interessiert später eigentlich niemanden mehr.
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Re: Fed Cup Thread : WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

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Ich mag die Regelung auch nicht, aber diese Aussage strotzt vor Arroganz und Überheblichkeit: Nur weil es irgendein Forum-User nicht ernst nehmen kann, heißt es nicht, dass es das weltbeste Damendoppel auch nicht kann...

Und das ist ja letztendlich entscheidend...
Ist ja auch sein Standardargument, warum ALG nicht ins FC-Team sollte, da sie ja bei den Grand Slams wenig reißt. Achja, und Kerber spielt natürlich stark Doppel, weil sie ein Mal ein recht enges Match gegen die Williams-Schwestern bestritten hat.

Allerdings ist die Regel wirklich beschissen und hat meines Erachtens auch nicht dazu geführt, dass jetzt mehr Topleute Doppel spielen.

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Old Jan 31st, 2013, 12:44 AM   #4086
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Re: Fed Cup Thread : WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

Barthel hat übrigens gegen Vinci exzellente Volley-Qualitäten gezeigt.
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Old Jan 31st, 2013, 08:59 AM   #4087
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Allerdings ist die Regel wirklich beschissen und hat meines Erachtens auch nicht dazu geführt, dass jetzt mehr Topleute Doppel spielen.
Naja, aber es macht wenigstens die Dauer eines Doppelmatches ein bisschen berechenbarer. Viel länger als 90 Minuten dauern die mit No-AD und MTB sehr selten. Ist für die Turnierplanung sicher ganz gut. Und auch wenn sie die Upset-Gefahr ein ganzes Stück erhöhen gewinnen ja doch meistens die starken Doppelteams.
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Re: Fed Cup Thread : WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

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Ist ja auch sein Standardargument, warum ALG nicht ins FC-Team sollte, da sie ja bei den Grand Slams wenig reißt. Achja, und Kerber spielt natürlich stark Doppel, weil sie ein Mal ein recht enges Match gegen die Williams-Schwestern bestritten hat.

Allerdings ist die Regel wirklich beschissen und hat meines Erachtens auch nicht dazu geführt, dass jetzt mehr Topleute Doppel spielen.

Der Sieg von Errani/Vinci (auch gegen Williams) bei den AO zeigte eindrucksvoll wie stark ALG`s Leistung im Doppel bei den Vorbereitungsturnieren war.

Gestern sah man sehr gut, dass nicht jeder mit Peschke an der Seite gewinnen kann.
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Re: Fed Cup Thread : WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

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France v Germany

Venue: Palais des Sports Beaublanc
Location: Limoges, France
Surface: Indoor Clay

France
Marion Bartoli
Alize Cornet
Kristina Mladenovic
Virginie Razzano
Amelie Mauresmo (captain)

Germany
Angelique Kerber
Julia Görges
Sabine Lisicki
Anna-Lena Grönefeld
Barbara Rittner (captain)
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Mladenovic hat gg. Wickmayer ziemlich grottig angefangen, aber jetzt spielt sie wie vorgestern.

Edit: Naja, schlägt schlechter auf als Vorgestern. Hat aber wieder die Schiedsrichter auf ihrer Seite.

Edit 2: Und jetzt ist sie verschwunden.

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4:1 für Frankreich, wenn Bartoli mitspielen sollte
Und Bartoli spielt mit. Was für ein Pech. Einfach unglaublich
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Und Bartoli spielt mit. Was für ein Pech. Einfach unglaublich
Das Pech kann noch größer werden, z.B. wenn es gegen Polen in der Relegation zur 3.Liga gehen sollte. Weißrussland wird es ohne Azarenka wohl kaum schaffen.

Wie gesagt, man kann jetzt ganz schnell komplett durchgereicht werden in den Ligen. Die Europa-/Afrika-Gruppe wäre jedenfalls der absolute Tiefpunkt in der Geschichte des deutschen Damentennis.
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Die Geschichte mit dem Tiefpunkt, und noch mal ein Tiefpunkt. Da gibt's noch mal einen niedrigen Tiefpunkt. Ich kann diesen Scheißdreck nicht mehr hören.
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Old Jan 31st, 2013, 07:19 PM   #4094
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Ob der Sponsor das so auch sieht? Immerhin wollte man ein 1.Liga-Team sponsern und kein drittklassiges.
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Wir haben jetzt binnen einer Woche schon in China, in Weißrussland und in Polen die Relegation verloren.
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