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Old Nov 3rd, 2006, 11:19 PM   #46
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Time for you to learn how to read and understand the facts.
Graf is definitley not the GOAT. There are players like Navaratilova, Evert, Billie Jean King, Margaret Court, who accomplished a lot without their main rival being stabbed by one of their fans.

If Federer got stabbed by a Nadal fan and Nadal went on to win the next 3 slams that Federer previously owned, what would you say?

Steffi is definitely overrated.
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Old Nov 3rd, 2006, 11:22 PM   #47
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Luckily the facts aren't dictated by what you feel. You obviously haven't looked at the FACTS.
You obviously don't understand the facts And thinking in terms of "IF" won't bring you anywhere, since there already "IS". Personally I think Evert, Navratilova and Graf belong to the BEST of all time, yet the Lauerus-Jury gave the award "BEST FEMALE TENNIS PLAYER OF THE 20th CENTURY" to none other than STEFFI GRAF End of story
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Graf is definitley not the GOAT. There are players like Navaratilova, Evert, Billie Jean King, Margaret Court, who accomplished a lot without their main rival being stabbed by one of their fans.

If Federer got stabbed by a Nadal fan and Nadal went on to win the next 3 slams that Federer previously owned, what would you say?

Steffi is definitely overrated.
She is only called overrated by haters or fans of other players, who can't live with the fact that she really IS the BEST Thank God I can live with that
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You obviously don't understand the facts And thinking in terms of "IF" won't bring you anywhere, since there already "IS". Personally I think Evert, Navratilova and Graf belong to the BEST of all time, yet the Lauerus-Jury gave the award "BEST FEMALE TENNIS PLAYER OF THE 20th CENTURY" to none other than STEFFI GRAF End of story
Then its a BIG MYSTERY why the top 16 elite member ranked Steffi Graf way below Navratilova, Laver, Evert, Sampras, Tilden and BJ King on even more prestigious Top 100 Athletes of the 20th Century. Hmm...I wonder why they felt Graf should be ranked below these great champions.

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She is only called overrated by haters or fans of other players, who can't live with the fact that she really IS the BEST Thank God I can live with that
Maybe you should take a couple hours out of your day to do some real research instead of being guided by these feelings of yours.
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What Elite-members? They can never compare themselves to the Laureus Jury, which is THE ELITE in sports
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Maybe you should take a couple hours out of your day to do some real research instead of being guided by these feelings of yours.
Your congnitive dissonance is really impressive
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Then its a BIG MYSTERY why the top 16 elite member ranked Steffi Graf way below Navratilova, Laver, Evert, Sampras, Tilden and BJ King on even more prestigious Top 100 Athletes of the 20th Century. Hmm...I wonder why they felt Graf should be ranked below these great champions.

Maybe they felt American with all their heart ..... ?


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that's the stupidististist ranking EVER.

Eddy Merckx. Never heard of?

No, he's not from the U.S.!
Bad luck for Eddy .......
How about a cyclist from the US called Lance Armstrong. Not as good as Eddy IMO but considering they were going for mostly Americans I am surprised to not see him there.
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Top 100 Athletes of the 20th Century

The top athletes of century as voted by a 16-member panel assembled by The Associated Press, with first place votes in parenthesis, points based on 100 points for a first place vote through one point for a 100th place vote:

No. Athlete (1st place) Pts

1. Babe Ruth (5) 1551
2. Michael Jordan (4) 1524
3. Jim Thorpe (3) 1471
4. Muhammad Ali (2) 1462
5. Wayne Gretzky 1368
6. Jim Brown 1333
7. Joe Louis (1) 1327
8. Jesse Owens 1307
9. Babe Didrikson Zaharias (1) 1254
10. Wilt Chamberlain 1235

11. Willie Mays 1182
12. Jack Nicklaus 1167
13. Ted Williams 1124
14. Ty Cobb 1115
15. Pele 1095
16. Bill Russell 1071
17. Lou Gehrig 1064
18. Hank Aaron 1044
19. Joe DiMaggio 1031
20. Martina Navratilova 1026

21. Carl Lewis 1009
22. Gordie Howe 988
23. Sugar Ray Robinson 949
24. Larry Bird 945
25. Ben Hogan 937
26. Oscar Robertson 929
27. Red Grange 905
28. Walter Payton 882
29. Jackie Robinson 875
30. Rod Laver 863

31. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 837
32. Magic Johnson 835
33. Arnold Palmer 814
34. Sandy Koufax 792
35. Mickey Mantle (tie) 785
35. Mark Spitz 785
37. Joe Montana 772
38. Jack Dempsey 765
39. Bobby Orr 729
40. Jackie Joyner-Kersee 685

41. Billie Jean King 683
42. Walter Johnson 671
43. Sammy Baugh 621
44. Rocky Marciano (tie) 596
44. Johnny Unitas 596
46. Stan Musial 589
47. Bobby Jones 572
48. Rogers Hornsby 567
49. Honus Wagner 560
50. Jerry Rice 552

51. Pete Sampras 550
52. Nadia Comaneci 547
53. Bill Tilden 537
54. Don Hutson 533
55. Chris Evert 509
56. Cy Young 508
57. Julius Erving 488
58. Tiger Woods 483
59. Roger Bannister 471
60. Jerry West 451

61. Rafer Johnson 447
62. Maurice Richard 440
63. Eric Heiden 437
64. Lawrence Taylor 418
65. Jean-Claude Killy 416
66. Edwin Moses 415
67. Nolan Ryan 403
68. Steffi Graf 392
69. Paavo Nurmi 386
70. Bobby Hull 378

71. Bob Mathias 376
72. Christy Mathewson (tie) 371
72. Bronco Nagurski 371
74. Elgin Baylor 353
75. Sam Snead 345
76. Sonja Henie (tie) 344
76. Wilma Rudolph 344
78. Dick Butkus 340
79. Bob Cousy 326
80. Willlie Shoemaker 325

81. Secretariat 311
82. Cal Ripken Jr. 308
83. Althea Gibson 302
84. Mark McGwire 301
85. John McEnroe 300
86. Otto Graham 298
87. O.J. Simpson 294
88. Pete Rose 290
89. Roger Staubach 289
90. Don Budge 266

91. Eddie Arcaro (tie) 262
91. Juan Manuel Fangio 262
93. Henry Armstrong 259
94. Mario Lemieux 250
95. Sugar Ray Leonard 246
96. Mario Andretti 233
97. Emil Zatopek 232
98. Josh Gibson 223
99. Warren Spahn 220
100. Roberto Clemente (tie) 215
100. Bob Gibson 215
ok ok of course Martina Navratilova is the best tennis player ever (nothing new, also ants know that)....but that's not enough! she is the best sport figure ever
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why I can't goodrep ATPWTATours?

I suppose all those Grafmads gave him/her a deluge of badreps!
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ok ok of course Martina Navratilova is the best tennis player ever (nothing new, also ants know that)....but that's not enough! she is the best sport figure ever
No, Hank Aaron is better .....

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