[GeeTee]

I also wonder whether it might be an idea to list the states that the women played for? This can sometimes help differentiate between players of similar names (eg Muff Wilson NSW and Margaret Wilson VIC) although plenty of players did change their residence/state eligibility in their careers.

It woudn't help with the two Miss Stevensons/Mrs Waddells from Victoria though. Names like these would nearly always need to be spelled out in full:

Gwynneth 'Gwen' STEVENSON (Mrs Graham WADDELL after 1943) - died 15 January 1950
Dorothy 'Dot' STEVENSON (Mrs John Victor 'Jack' WADDELL from 1 Feb 1940)

Yes - the sisters married brothers.

[GeeTee]

Couple more I just noticed:

"Gladys Patterson" (1922) is actually "Grace PATERSON", daughter of 'Banjo' Paterson who wrote Waltzing Matilda among other famous songs and poems.

Mrs Harold S 'Barney UTZ was formerly Gwen CHIPLIN.

F Cameron (20s) is Flora CAMERON.

and in addition to my other thoughts above:

7) Where the first name of a player is not known, she should be listed as 'S Smith' (if referenced in results as 'Miss S Smith') or MRS S Smith (if listed as married). I think this would help prevent confusion and help to track down other missing names.

Sorry to be so longwinded. Hope these help!

[Rollo]

Couple more I just noticed:

"Gladys Patterson" (1922) is actually "Grace PATERSON", daughter of 'Banjo' Paterson who wrote Waltzing Matilda among other famous songs and poems.

Mrs Harold S 'Barney UTZ was formerly Gwen CHIPLIN.

F Cameron (20s) is Flora CAMERON.

Thanks-added. BTW-I've also seen Mr Utz mentioned as "Harry"

7) Where the first name of a player is not known, she should be listed as 'S Smith' (if referenced in results as 'Miss S Smith') or MRS S Smith (if listed as married). I think this would help prevent confusion and help to track down other missing names.

Agreed.

Sorry to be so longwinded. Hope these help!

As Chinese fortune cookie say-long wind carries one far

[Rollo]

Random questions and thoughts:

Are

WATERHOUSE, GWYNNETH - NSW player of 1920s

and

WATERHOUSE, GWEN (later Mrs Cassidy-1940 Aussie)

one and the same?


Could Syd Carr and Syd Hocking be one and the same?

and finally:


LASCELLES, Mrs Frank from 1922)=Annie Halley NSW Player of 1920s
LASCELLES, Nellie


What, if any, connection between these two. One and the same?



I'll reply at length to your other ideas tomorrow GeeTee. Thanks!

[GeeTee]

Hey there.

a) Yep, Gwynneth ('Gwen') WATERHOUSE
b) I think Syd Hocking was a Miss, so probably not
c) Same. Ellen Annie ('Nellie') HALLEY born 1898

[Rollo]

Hey there.

a) Yep, Gwynneth ('Gwen') WATERHOUSE
b) I think Syd Hocking was a Miss, so probably not
c) Same. Ellen Annie ('Nellie') HALLEY born 1898

Thanks GeeTee!

I'm chugging along towards formatting and editing all the Australian results. So far I'm up to 1973. When it is complete (in a few weeks I hope) we can get together about your ideas on a name list. It's a marvelous idea

If anyone has 2011, 2010 (the recent years) and can post them it would be much aprreciated.

[austinrunner]

I've just added a bunch of Australians to the married names thread.

[austinrunner]

Do we know the complete seedings for 1925, 1931, and 1932?

[GeeTee]

^
1925
01 Sylvia Harper NSW
02 Daphne Akhurst NSW
03 Esna Boyd VIC
04 Kath Le Messurier SA
05 Marjorie Cox NSW
06 Minnie Richardson TAS

01 Harper/Akhurst
02 Boyd/Le Messurier
03 Cox/St George
04 Meaney/Mitchell

01 Willard/Akhurst
02 Schlesinger/Harper
03 Hone/Boyd
04 Baker/Le Messurier

Also - Le Messurier recovered from 1-4 down in the final set and earned a MP in her match against Meaney. On MP Meaney's shot, assisted by the wind, just caught the baseline.

1931

01 Marjorie Crawford
02 Sylvia Harper
03 Louie Bickerton
04 Coral Buttsworth

01 Crawford/Harper
02 Cozens/Bickerton
03 Dingle/Valkenburg
04 Molesworth/Westacott

01 Crawford/Crawford
02 Hopman/Hall
03 Moon/Harper
04 Willard/Bickerton

JUNIOR
01 Emily Westacott
02 Joan Hartigan
03 Lottie Crawford
04 Flo Francisco

01 Westacott/Moon
02 Hartigan/Bloomfield
03 Chitty/Anderson
04 Scott/Stevenson

1932

01 Esna Robertson
02 Marjorie Crawford
03 Coral Buttsworth
04 Frances Hoddle-Wrigley

01 Robertson/O'Hara Wood
02 Buttsworth/Crawford
03 Westacott/Hoddle-Wrigley
04 Le Messurier/Weston

01 Crawford/Crawford
02 Harada JPN/Robertson
03 Satoh JPN/O'Hara Wood
04 Donohue/Buttsworth

ETA Also a few other additions/corrections:

1933

01 Buttsworth
02 Hartigan
03 Westacott
04 Crawford
05 Molesworth
06 Lewis
07 Hoddle-Wrigley
08 Hall

01 Buttsworth/Crawford
02 Wood/Toyne
03 Hartigan/Van Ryn
04 Molesworth/Westacott
05 Harper/Bellamy
06 Hall/Hoddle-Wrigley
07 Anthony/Chitty
08 Woodward/Derham

Mixed
05 Turnbull/Weston
06 Tonkin/G Stevenson

NB - Some of the doubles seeds look like they might have been re-done before the tournament started as 01 shouldn't be playing 03 in a QF...

[austinrunner]

Thanks. Were there seeds in 1922 and 1923?

[GeeTee]

^ Prior to the 1924 championships, seeding was not permitted.

ALSO

Some of the 1937 seedings in this thread look to be incorrect.


01 Joan Hartigan NSW
02 Nancye Wynne VIC
03 Thelma Coyne NSW
04 Nell Hopman VIC
05 Emily Westacott QLD
06 Dot Stevenson VIC
07 Gwen O'Halloran SA
08 May Hardcastle QLD

01 Wynne/Coyne
02 Hopman/Westacott
03 Hartigan/Blick
04 Hattersley/Selwin

01 Hopman/Hopman
02 Turnbull/Stevenson
03 Moon/Wynne
04 Huxley/Hartigan

Source: SMH 12 January 1937

ALSO

Dr Nancy Lewis had an older sister, Amy (Mrs D Harrison from 1938) who was also an interstate tennis player.

[Rollo]

Thanks Gee Tee-all fixed except for 1933, which I want to take a real close look at given the weird places the seeds fall!

I was relying on the official Aussie site for a lot of the seeding-clearly NOT a reliable source.

[GeeTee]

Rollo - since you're only going up to 1926 with the AO for your November project, here are a few details and notes for later Aussie titles. I'll save the other ones for those threads.

1927
Nell WEBB VIC
Spencer F MILLEAR VIC
Rupert L SHEPHERD SA
Harold N WILSON QLD
Thomas E ROBINSON VIC

Stanley Gordon LUM, son of Stephen LUM - a Melbourne merchant - was one of the leading junior players in Victoria and represented that state in Linton Cup competitions. He twice won the South Australian junior singles and doubles championships. Lum was born in Melbourne in 1906, studied at Scotch College and was coached in tennis by Gerald Patterson. He had never left Australia until he was invited to represent China in the Far Eastern Games of 1927. He went on to captain China in the Davis Cup and play at Wimbledon.

1929
J Colin GREGORY GBR (mixed with Mall MOLESWORTH)
Ian G COLLINS GBR (mixed with Sylvia Harper)
William Lyall (Lyall) REYNOLDS WA
Sydney 'Syd' HOCKING (married Gordon BENDER in 1930) SA
Ivy BOWEN
Margaret TAYLOR SA
Peter HOOPER SA
Mrs Eric DAY (nee Nancy WEBB) SA
Bertha KAY SA
FR 'Ray' HONE (mixed with Edna LAWRENCE)
RB 'Ron' HONE (mixed with Dot WESTON)

There were a number of tennis playing Hones from South Australia:

Dr and Mrs Frank S HONE (Frank was a champion in pioneer days) appear to have had six children:

- Dr F Raymond 'Ray' HONE
- Dr Garton M 'Gar' HONE
- Mr Ronald B 'Ron' HONE
- Miss Joyce HONE
- Miss Ruth HONE
- Mr Brian William HONE (born 1908)

Strangely, for this family, Ron Hone was NOT a Doctor, but he married one!

Brian was a very good tennis player and a talented Australian Rules footballer, but was better known as a first-class cricketer. He also excelled academically and was selected as a 1930 Rhodes Scholar.

In 1929, even though Brian and sister Ruth did not enter, Ray, Gar, Ron and Joyce all played in the Australian Championships - possibly a record for siblings in the same Grand Slam tournament.

1932
Robert RP BARBOUR
Allan Walton KNIGHT (1910-1998) - won Australian Real/Royal Tennis Championship for 11 successive years to 1951

[GeeTee]

A few more odds n ends:

1933
Ailsa CARCARY (WA)
CR REES = Rosemary REES (VIC)
Mrs C BARNES
Amy LEWIS

Eric FREAK
Alan KNIGHT

1934
Erla CORRIGAN
Isobel PURDY
Eileen PEACH (Generally E Peach=Eileen, B Peach=Beth)
"C DANFORD"= Marjorie Crawford
Mrs Jack E CASSIDY (nee Gwynneth WATERHOUSE)
Mary STOREY (Mrs Harry Brian AUSTIN from 1938)

George KENDALL
Harry Brian AUSTIN
Hugh 'Hughie' GOODWIN
Jim RODGERS

1935
Played at Kooyong and Albert Ground (both Grass)

Lorna DICKENS
Edna HARRY
Agnes SCOTT
G COYNE = Gladys TOYNE (doubles w Cox)

1936
Stan H GIFFORD
WF 'Chum' STEPHEN
Rupert L SHEPHERD

1937
AG 'Peg' MENZIES
Kath WOODWARD

Jim GILCHRIST
Victor KELLY
Frank BENNETT
Howard LEWIS

1938
C DAVIES = Jean WILSON (Mrs Cecil DAVIES from 1937)
George HOLLAND
Frank WALSH

1939
J LOVETT = Mrs Jack LOVETT (TAS) - nee Elaine SPEED
George WILKINSON

1940
Mary MATTERS
Mrs K GOSBELL
Meg BROOKER
Betty GRIFFITHS
Joan CLARK (TAS)

Robert Evan (Evan) HENRY

ETA - a few more:

1948
Patricia 'Pat' Longton (NZL)
Betty Bligh

Roy Harrison

1951
Mrs Patricia Colyer (nee Hodgson)

Ross Sherriff

1952
Dorothy 'Dot' Diggle (Mrs John Diggle)

1953
Mrs R Wratten

1954
Angela Fulton
Paquita Greenslade
Alison Paech
Dorothy 'Dot' Linde
Margaret O'Donnell

William 'Bill' Case

1955
Margaret Stewart
Anne Tracey (TAS)
Lorraine MacGuire
Felicity Wald
Joan Penny

1956
Angela Beitzel
Lynette Bowden
Zara Robinson
Shirley Anderson
Shirley Lee
Maureen Sayers

[Jimbo109]

Originally Posted by Rollo

Dates:
Venue: Kooyong, Mebourne
Surface: Grass

Dates: January 12 to 25