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Old Nov 25th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #3751
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Zur DJHM, die in dieser Woche laufen wird, habe ich hier mal die Siegerinnen der jeweiligen Klassen ab 2002 (ab 2004 mit Ergebnis)

U18
2002 Antonia Matic
2003 Angelique Kerber
2004 Angelique Kerber - Andrea Sieveke 6:1 6:0
2005 Tatjana Maria - Laura Siegemund 7:5 7:6
2006 Julia Görges - Laura Siegemund 6:1 6:2
2007 Dominice Ripoll - Ellen Linsenbolz 3:6 6:2 6:2
2008 Mona Barthel - Syna Kayser 7:6 6:2
2009 Sina Haas - Carolin Daniels 6:1 6:2
2010 Julia Kimmelmann - Laura Schaeder 6:1 6:4
2011 Julia Wachaczyk - Anna-Lena Friedsam 7:6 5:7 6:4
2012 Sonja Larsen - Carolin Schmidt 4:6 7:5 6:1

U16
2002 Andrea Petkovic
2003 Martina Pavelec
2004 Laura Siegemund - Natalie Fehse 1:6 6:3 6:1
2005 Nathalie Fehse - Anna Geissler 6:1 6:1
2006 Syna Kayser - Mona Barthel 6:2 6:1
2007 Lena-Marie Hofmann - Leonie Athanasiadis 6:4 6:0
2008 Dinah Pfizenmaier - Christina Shakovets 5:2 Aufgabe
2009 Julia Kimmelmann - Stephanie Wagner 4:6 6:4 6:1
2010 Carina Witthöft - Stephanie Wagner 6:1 6:4
2011 Jana Nabel - Amelie Intert 6:0 6:2
2012 Yana Morderger - Amelie Intert 6:3 7:5

U14
2002 Sabrina Allaut
2003 Olivia Caroline Matuszak
2004 Syna Kayser - Katrin Schmidt 7:5 6:4
2005 Katrin Schmidt - Kim Grajdek 6:3 6:2
2006 Mara Nowak - Sina Haas 6:2 6:0
2007 Nina Wellnitz - Laura Schaeder 6:0 6:1
2008 Annika Beck - Hanna Landener 6:3 6:1
2009 Jana Nabel - Lisa-Marie Mätschke 2:6 6:2 6:4
2010 Antonia Lottner - Tayisiya Morderger 6:2 6:0
2011 Yana Morderger - Julia Mikulski 6:4 6:2
2012 Katharina Gerlach - Lena Rüffer 7:5 1:6 7:6


Ist schon interessant, wenn man mal in alte Draws reinschaut.
2004 sind Görges und Lisicki in der U16 bereits in der 1. Runde gegen Nothnagel und Kadur ausgeschieden. Im gleichen Jahr gab es im Halbfinale der U18 ein Duell zweier späterer Top 10-Spielerinnen mit Kerber gegen Petkovic.
2005 bezwang Siegemund in der U18 sowohl Görges als auch Petkovic.
2009 verlor Pfizenmaier bereits in der 2. Runde gegen Habich.

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Old Nov 25th, 2013, 09:53 PM   #3752
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Ist schon interessant, wenn man mal in alte Draws reinschaut.
2004 sind Görges und Lisicki in der U16 bereits in der 1. Runde gegen Nothnagel und Kadur ausgeschieden. Im gleichen Jahr gab es im Halbfinale der U18 ein Duell zweier späterer Top 10-Spielerinnen mit Kerber gegen Petkovic.
2005 bezwang Siegemund in der U18 sowohl Görges als auch Petkovic.
2009 verlor Pfizenmaier bereits in der 2. Runde gegen Habich.
Es sind nicht Welten, sondern Nuancen, die eine Karriere von einer Nicht-Karriere unterscheiden.
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Old Nov 26th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #3753
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Re: ITF Turniere, Nationale Turniere und Bundesliga

Ich habe mal eine kurze Frage. Und zwar gibt es für ITF-Turniere eine Mindestanzahl an Spielerinnen, die mitspielen? Die Frage kam auf, als ich mir die EntryList von Djibouti (2.-9. Dezember) angeguckt habe. Da sind mittlerweile nur noch 15 Leute gemeldet...
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Nein, eigentlich nicht. Das Draw wird dann mit Freilosen aufgefüllt. Gab es diese Woche z.B. in Rethymno

http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/...tid=1100030461

Allerdings bekommen die Damen mit Freilosen erst Punkte, wenn sie das VF erreicht haben.
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Old Nov 26th, 2013, 05:18 PM   #3755
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Nein, eigentlich nicht. Das Draw wird dann mit Freilosen aufgefüllt. Gab es diese Woche z.B. in Rethymno

http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/...tid=1100030461

Allerdings bekommen die Damen mit Freilosen erst Punkte, wenn sie das VF erreicht haben.
Okay, danke. Aber in Djibouti scheint es Ja doch echt ziemlich krass werden. Eventuell bekommen die Ja nichtmal nen 16er Feld zusammen.
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Okay, danke. Aber in Djibouti scheint es Ja doch echt ziemlich krass werden. Eventuell bekommen die Ja nichtmal nen 16er Feld zusammen.
Vor 2 Jahren gab es dort immerhin 11 Freilose, im letzten Jahr 8. Aber zur Not gibt es halt so viele Freilose, dass es am Ende passt.
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Zur DJHM, die in dieser Woche laufen wird, habe ich hier mal die Siegerinnen der jeweiligen Klassen ab 2002 (ab 2004 mit Ergebnis)
Man sieht mal wieder, dass die U14 Ranglisten kaum was über eine zukünftige Profikarriere aussagen. Ganz anders sieht es dagegen bei den U18 aus.
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Old Nov 26th, 2013, 08:54 PM   #3758
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Man sieht mal wieder, dass die U14 Ranglisten kaum was über eine zukünftige Profikarriere aussagen. Ganz anders sieht es dagegen bei den U18 aus.
Kann man so sehen. Wenn man mal schaut, wer ab 2002 von den Siegerinnen (und ab 2004 auch von den Finalistinnen) in die Top 500 kam, sieht es so aus:

U14 (6)
Syna Kayser, Kim Grajdek, Sina Haas, Annika Beck, Antonia Lottner, Tayisiya Morderger (ab nächsten Montag)

U16 (10)
Andrea Petkovic, Martina Pavelec, Laura Siegemund, Syna Kayser, Mona Barthel, Lena-Marie Hofmann, Dinah Pfizenmaier, Christina Shakovets, Julia Kimmelmann, Carina Witthöft

U18 (13)
Antonia Matic, Angelique Kerber, Andrea Sieveke, Tatjana Maria, Julia Görges, Laura Siegemund, Dominice Ripoll, Mona Barthel, Syna Kayser, Sina Haas, Carolin Daniels, Julia Kimmelmann, Anna-Lena Friedsam


Noch krasser sieht es aus, wenn man nur die Spielerinnen nimmt, die bis in die Top 200 kamen:

U14 (1)
Annika Beck

U16 (5)
Andrea Petkovic, Laura Siegemund, Mona Barthel, Dinah Pfizenmaier, Carina Witthöft

U18 (6)
Angelique Kerber, Tatjana Maria, Julia Görges, Laura Siegemund, Mona Barthel, Anna-Lena Friedsam
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Ich denke mal das liegt daran das in der Altersgruppe die körperliche Entwicklung einfach noch zu unterschiedlich ist. Wenn ich mir Lottner anschaue, die hatte halt in jungen Jahren viele Vorteile ganz einfach durch ihre Grösse und körperliche Entwicklung. Sobald es dann irgendwann gegen Spielerinnen geht die ähnlich weit sind wird es schon komplizierter.

Bei den U18-Spielerinnen hat sich das dann schon zum grössten Teil angeglichen.
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Old Nov 26th, 2013, 10:15 PM   #3760
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Die Draws für die DJHM gibt es hier

U14 und U16 starten bereits morgen, die U18 dann ab Donnerstag
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Old Nov 27th, 2013, 12:20 PM   #3761
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Nach Kerber auch Lisicki beim TC Rüppurr

Die beiden besten deutschen Spielerinnen in der 2. Liga
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Eigentlich wäre es besser, wenn man eh mit der S2 von Duisburg bzw. Dortmund dahin fahren würde und somit Essen Hbf umgeht. Vom S-Bahnhof Essen-Bergeborbeck sind das eigentlich nur ein paar Meter bis zur Halle.

Hier bei Google Maps kann man die Halle gut erkennen: http://goo.gl/maps/s0B9J
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In der Tat, ich fahre auch nach Bergeborbeck, von da ist es ein Katzensprung bis zur Halle.
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Old Nov 27th, 2013, 04:49 PM   #3765
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Die 1. Runde bei den U14- und U16-Spielen brachten keine großen Überraschungen. Alle 16 gesetzten Spielerinnen stehen im AF.

Die Achtelfinals der DJHM 2013

U14
(1)Anastazja Rosnowska - Nastja Rettich
(7)Janina Scheffbuch - Alisa Diercksen
(4)Lara Schmidt - Zoe Schmidt
(8)Carmen Schultheiß - Emelie Luisa Schwarte

(6)Carolin Jung - (Q)Valentina Likic
(3)Shaline-Doreen Pipa - Patricia Avram
(5)Jule Niemeier - Anica Stabel
(2)Sophia Mejerovits - (Q)Helene Grimm


U16
(1)Vinja Lehmann - Weronika Kajdan
(5)Lena Rüffer - (Q)Janina Berres
(3)Lea Gasparovic - Marleen Tilgner
(8)Katharina Gerlach - Anna Gabric

(7)Alexandra Bezmenov - Jessica Regehr
(4)Imke Schlünzen - Lina Hohnhold
(6)Anna-Lena Linden - Julia Mikulski
(2)Katharina Hobgarski - Sabrina Rittberger


U18
(1)Tayisiya Morderger - Paula Smetak
Julia Jung - Lisa-Marie Mätschke
(4)Yana Morderger - Kim Janine Gefeller
Carmen Smolka - Maxine Schmidt

Tatjana Stoll - Kristin Vivien Rehse
(3) Charlotte Klasen - Hanna Sohn
Lena Lutzeier - Nora Niedmers
(2)Nina-Isabella Scholten - Luisa Marie Huber

Habe irgendwie geahnt, dass beide Mordergers in einer Hälfte sind.
Bei der U14 sind praktisch alle vollzählig am Start. In der U16 fehlen Matviyenko und Ponomar, dazu natürlich beide Mordergers, die in der U18 starten. In der U18 fehlen recht viele, u.a. Witthöft, Lottner, Korpatsch, Übelhör und Larsen.

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