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Old Nov 20th, 2007, 11:21 PM   #46
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Re: Dorothea Lambert Chambers

Great question Elegos-I did a little digging and discovered Elsie was the older sister of Hilde. The best source of information about them in English can be found in the book, Tennis, a Cultural History.

I'll try and post more about them in the pre-war thread.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2007, 09:01 AM   #47
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1912 Lambert Chambers results from 1913 Ayres Almanack

1912

Wimbledon

Singles
Challenge Round
Larcombe d. Lambert Chambers wo

Mixed Doubles with AF Wilding
1R d. AL Bentley/ V Spofforth 63 62
2R d. Thomas/ Tuckey 46 64 64
QF lost to RJ McNair/ Mrs McNair wo


July 17
Nottingham (Nottinghamshire Championships)

Mixed doubles with SN Doust
SF lost to GW Hillyard/ Hillyard 62 26 108

Married Couples Doubles with R Lambert Chambers
1R (SF) lost Dr Lamplough/ Lamplough 63 62


August 12
Felixstowe (East of England Championships)
1R d. DC Maygrove 61 61
2R d. Mrs CE Hunter 36 63 61
QF d. Mrs GW Hillyard 63 46 62
SF d. ML Fison 62 63
Final lost to AM Morton 57 63 retired

Doubles with AM Morton
SF d. Mrs Day/ Harvey 61 61
Final d. Hillyard/ E Ryan 62 46 63

Mixed doubles with SN Doust
SF d. J Ganzoni/ AM Morton 62 61
Final d. GW Hillyard/ Hillyard 63 62


October 7
Tulse Hill

Mixed doubles with SN Doust
SF d. H Price/ H Harper 63 63
Final d. BWV Baumgartner/ DK Hole 64 61


October 14
Queens Club (London Covered Court Championships)

Mixed doubles with EO Pockley
1R bye
QF d. GTC Watt/ KB Aitchison 75 64
SF d. H Roper Barrett/ O'Neill 63 68 64
Final d. E Gwynne Evans/ B Tulloch 64 62


October 21
Dulwich (Covered Championships of Europe)

Mixed doubles with SN Doust
1R d. HH Yolland/ DE Turner 61 62
QF d. GTC Watt/ Perrett 63 64
SF d. E Gwynne Evans/ O'Neill 63 64
Final d. E Wallers/ Treadgold 64 64
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Old Nov 22nd, 2007, 09:03 AM   #48
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1919 results from 1920 Ayres Almanack

1919

April 7
London (Covered Court Championships Queens Club)
1R d. EF Wilkinson 60 60
2R d. Satterthwaite 61 60
SF d. Beamish 75 63
Final d. Ryan 62 61
Challenge Round Lambert Chambers d. Holman 63 63

(Note: This was the first open tournament played in England since the war ended)

Mixed with PM Davson
1R bye
QF d. G Greville/ Greville 61 64
SF d. GL Patterson/ Satterthwaite 75 16 64
Final lost to R Lycett/ Ryan 62 64

April 19
Roehampton

Doubles with Larcombe
SF d. E & D Moore 60 61
Final d. Ryan/ Satterthwaite wo

Mixed doubles with AD Prebble
SF lost to GL Patterson/ Satterthwaite 57 61 64


May 19
Surbiton (Surrey Championships)
1R bye
2R d. AG Wilkinson 60 61
3R d. Brooke Adler 60 61
QF d. McNair 62 57 61
SF d. Beamish 61 61
Final lost Ryan wo

Mixed with AD Prebble
SF lost to GL Patterson/ Parton 62 75

May 30
Chiswick Park (Championships of Middlesex)

Doubles with Ryan
SF d. Holman/ K McKane 63 64
Final d. Greville/ Beamish wo


Mixed doubles with AD Prebble
SF lost to SN Doust/ Ryan 26 62 63


June 3
Manchester (Northern Championships)

Singles
1R bye
2R d. Lamb 60 61
QF d. Tanner 60 60
SF d. McNair 36 86 62
Final d. Larcombe 75 63

Doubles with Larcombe
SF d. Riley/ Crook 60 60
Final d. Satterthwaite/ Ryan 63 86

Mixed with FL Riseley (All England Championships)
1R bye
2R d. TP Taylor/ W Hoyle 60 61
QF d. TY Sherwell/ Crook 61 60
SF d. AS Drew/ Tanner 60 63
Final d. SN Doust/ Ryan 64 46 97
Challenge Round d. JC Parke/ Larcombe 46 63 86


June 14
Beckenham (Kent Championships)

Singles
1R bye
2R d. CS Hurst 60 62
QF d. Craddock 64 60
SF d. Tuckey 61 61
Final lost E Ryan 26 75 64

Doubles with Ryan
SF d. Geen/ Lamplough 61 60
Final d. Satterthwaite/ K McKane 62 61

Mixed doubles with AD Prebble
SF lost to SN Doust/ RJ McNair 75 75

June 16
Queens (Championships of London)

Doubles with Ryan
SF d. Craddock/ Greville 63 62
Final d. Larcombe/ Satterthwaite 46 62 75


The Championships, Wimbledon
CR lost to Suzanne Lenglen (FR) 11-9 4-6 9-7

Lenglen saves two match points in what many have called the greatest women's match ever.

Mixed with AD Prebble
1R d. ED Bisseker/ Mrs A Hall 63 61
2R d. FW Donisthorpe/ D Ward 62 61
3R d. Max Woosnam/ Mrs Greville 64 61
QF d. TM Mavrogordato/ Mrs Parton 62 86
SF d. Max Decugis/ L Addison 61 60
Final lost to R Lycett/ E Ryan 60 60


July 14
Norwood

Doubles with Mrs Hall Walker
SF lost to Beamish/ K McKane 62 62

Mixed with JC Parke
SF d. GTC Watt/ Beamish 63 64
Final d. MJG Ritchie/ McNair 46 63 64


July 22
Frinton

Doubles with Satterthwaite
SF d. Hextall/ Harvey 46 61 60
Final d. K McKane/ Edgington 61 97

Mixed with WA Ingram
SF d. JB Gilbert/ K McKane 36 62 75
Final d. ANM Dudley/ Tighe 60 61


September 9
Eastbourne (South of England)

Doubles with Ryan
SF d. Lamplough/ BMS Lee 63 62
Final d. McNair/ Parton 62 61

Mixed with P O'Hara Wood
SF d. SN Doust/ McNair 36 63 63
Final d. W Radcliffe/ BMS Lee 61 64

October 20
Queens (London Covered Court Championships)

Mixed doubles with FMB Fisher
1R bye
2R d. N Dicks/ Lisner 62 61
QF d. CW Hordern/ McKane 61 60
SF d. SN Doust/ McNair 75 62
Final d. P O'Hara Wood/ Beamish 119 75
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 06:18 PM   #49
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Re: Dorothea Lambert Chambers

I've added in Andrew Tas' results from 1912 and 1919-much appreciated
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 09:10 PM   #50
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Re: Dorothea Lambert Chambers

Hi Rollo,

Thanks for all those results. I did not know that she played doubles for so long.
I have the results of some of those matches that you mentioned. I got them from the Times Digital Archives.

Middlesex Championships, Chiswick Park (G) 1910 May 28
Dorothea Douglass Chambers (BRI-G) - M. Messom (BRI-G) 6-2 6-2

Middlesex Championships, Chiswick Park (G) 1911 Jun 3
Dorothea Douglass Chambers (BRI-G) - Mabel Parton (BRI-G) 6-3 6-2

Northern England Championships, Manchester (G) 1911 Jun 10
Dorothea Douglass Chambers (BRI-G) - Mabel Parton (BRI-G) 6-2 6-2

Kent Championships, Beckenham (G) 1911 Jun 17
Dorothea Douglass Chambers (BRI-G) - Mildred Coles (BRI-G) 6-3 7-5

Nottinghamshire Championships, Nottingham (G) 1911 Jul 22
Dorothea Douglass Chambers (BRI-G) - Edith Boucher Hannam (BRI-G) 3-6 8-6 6-2

Middlesex Championships, Chiswick Park (G) 1913 May 31
Dorothea Douglass Chambers (BRI-G) - Dora Boothby (BRI-G) 6-2 6-3

Monte Carlo MON (C) 1914 Mar 2
F: Dorothea Douglass Chambers (BRI-G) - Elizabeth Ryan (USA) 6-4 6-1

Northern England Championships, Liverpool (G) 1914 Jun 6
Dorothea Douglass Chambers (BRI-G) - Agnes Morton (BRI-G) 6-1 6-1

The Lawn Tennis Championships, Wimbledon (G) 1914 Jul 4
C: Dorothea Douglass Chambers (BRI-G) - Ethel Thomson Larcombe (BRI-G) 7-5 6-4 (I think the last set was 6-4, and not 6-3 as you have written).

Middlesex Championships, Chiswick Park (G) 1920 May 29
Elizabeth Ryan (USA) - Dorothea Douglass Chambers (BRI-G) 7-5 6-2 (this is the match whose location you did not know)

Did Little mention any details on her Red Cross matches during WWI? In which years did she play?
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Old Nov 28th, 2007, 09:20 PM   #51
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Thanks Elegos! Unfortunately Little's book had nothing on her Red Cross activity. Perhaps the Times has something?

I'll add these in soon-as well as victoies at Ealing that Little apparently overlooked.
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Bump up --I need to add in the results from Elegos as well as recheck this against anything new Mark found in his threads.
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Bump up --I need to add in the results from Elegos as well as recheck this against anything new Mark found in his threads.
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Old Oct 9th, 2013, 08:20 PM   #54
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Re: Dorothea Lambert Chambers

The Iron Lady--Mrs Chambers in 1913.

Ankle length skirts were required in this era of starched clothes. Dorothea played in them until retirement despite the change in styles after the "Great War" of 1914-1918. It was often difficult for women to smash and serve overhanded in these outfits. Chambers served overhanded.

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The Iron Lady--Mrs Chambers in 1913.

Ankle length skirts were required in this era of starched clothes. Dorothea played in them until retirement despite the change in styles after the "Great War" of 1914-1918. It was often difficult for women to smash and serve overhanded in these outfits. Chambers served overhanded.

A century old photo. I can't believe the centenary of the beginning of the Great War is next year.
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Re: Dorothea Lambert Chambers

It is too bad she wasn't born 10 years later. It would have been great to see a rivalry between her and Lenglen. It was amazing at 38 she nearly beat a prime Lenglen at Wimbledon when all the other top women at the time were humiliated by Lenglen everytime on court.

Wasn't the strength of her game her huge powerful groundstrokes and tactical know how. That is what I have always read on her. Never saw a tape of her though.
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It is too bad she wasn't born 10 years later. It would have been great to see a rivalry between her and Lenglen. It was amazing at 38 she nearly beat a prime Lenglen at Wimbledon when all the other top women at the time were humiliated by Lenglen everytime on court.

Wasn't the strength of her game her huge powerful groundstrokes and tactical know how. That is what I have always read on her. Never saw a tape of her though.
So true RollingGraces! Either 10 years earlier or had the "Great War" happened in another year. Lore has it that Suzanne almost came to Wimbledon in 1914, but Papa would not allow it. Surely in 1915 she would have been ripe enough to have a go at it.

By 1919 Chambers was past her peak. Luckily for her Suzanne was playing her first tournament ever on grass.

There might be some footage of Dorothea, but if so I've never seen it. My impression of her game tallies with yours-tactical and applied pressure-with a heavy dose of concentration.
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So true RollingGraces! Either 10 years earlier or had the "Great War" happened in another year. Lore has it that Suzanne almost came to Wimbledon in 1914, but Papa would not allow it. Surely in 1915 she would have been ripe enough to have a go at it.

By 1919 Chambers was past her peak. Luckily for her Suzanne was playing her first tournament ever on grass.

There might be some footage of Dorothea, but if so I've never seen it. My impression of her game tallies with yours-tactical and applied pressure-with a heavy dose of concentration.
It seems Lenglen improved a lot in just one year since she allowed Chambers only 4 games in the next years final. Didn't Chambers have 2 match points in her 1919 final defeat. Amazing to think she would have been tied with Wills Moody for the all time record for many years had she won that one! Also how many Wimbledons she might have won without the War.
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It is too bad she wasn't born 10 years later. It would have been great to see a rivalry between her and Lenglen. It was amazing at 38 she nearly beat a prime Lenglen at Wimbledon when all the other top women at the time were humiliated by Lenglen everytime on court.

Wasn't the strength of her game her huge powerful groundstrokes and tactical know how. That is what I have always read on her. Never saw a tape of her though.
Dorothea Lambert Chambers was 40 years of age when she played Suzanne Lenglen in the Challenge Round at Wimbledon in 1919. Suzanne had only recently turned 20 and was playing in her first grass court tournament, so she was hardly in her prime.

From what I've read, Dorothea Lambert Chambers' strengths were her forehand, her tactical know-how and mastery of strategy, and a very strong will to win.
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Dorothea seemed to be quite mentally clever. She said interesting things about Suzanne winning her first final, leading the latter on a whimsical frame of mind. Suzanne acted a lot like a diva after that it seems. She didn't lose much, but it was forbidden for her to lose, and she did a few walkovers... avoiding to lose at any rate. Had Suzanne lost that first final, could have made her a more humble player with a better fighting spirit - who knows?

That sounds mean toward Suzanne, but I actually think she was the best, set the bar higher after the Chambers-Sutton rivalry, and before the power of Helen Wills, that Suzanne avoided to play after one match only.
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