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Old May 3rd, 2005, 03:27 AM   #1
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How would you rate Russian girls performance in 2005 (as of the end of April)?

Here is mine rating:

2 SHARAPOVA, MARIA B (lost a semi at AO; lost Miami final)

5 DEMENTIEVA, ELENA B- (definitely second best, plays at her level, improved serve IMO, took Russia to the 2nd Rd of FedCup)

6 MYSKINA, ANASTASIA F(that seems to be too much for what she's done in 2005)

7 KUZNETSOVA, SVETLANA C (should be C- if not Warsaw final)

10 ZVONAREVA, VERA RUS C (won a small tournament (now it looks like a fluke), but really hasn't shown anything in 2005)

12 PETROVA, NADIA RUS C- (has she even played in 2005?)

14 BOVINA, ELENA RUS C- (should be D, but due to her injury, giving her a benefit of the doubt)

18 LIKHOVTSEVA, ELENA RUS C (plays at her level)

36 SAFINA, DINARA RUS C (tough one, but giving her C since she hasn't done much before and after winning Paris; still underachieving in many matches she plays)

45 LINETSKAYA, EVGENIA RUS C (expected more)

47 DOUCHEVINA, VERA RUS C (underachiever, expected more)

48 KIRILENKO, MARIA RUS C+ (turned around a bit this year, C+ is upfront for what anticipated later this year)

61 CHAKVETADZE, ANNA RUS C (expected more)

63 JIDKOVA, ALINA RUS D (hasn't done anything at all, couldn't capitalize on 2004 success)

89 PANOVA, TATIANA RUS C (playing on and off, struggling with illness, but fighting).

120 BYCHKOVA, EKATERINA RUS C+ (good year for her level)

131 VOSKOBOEVA, GALINA RUS C+ (good year for her level)


Other notable:
232 KRASNOROUTSKAYA, LINA RUS D (I just don't see any fire left anymore)

233 MAKAROVA, EKATERINA RUS C+(good year)

243 VESNINA, ELENA RUS C+(good year)

707 KLEYBANOVA, ALISA RUS C- (definitely expected more)



Everybody is welcome to post your opinions. For me personally this year has been depressing so far.


PS. Objectivity will be very much appreciated.
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Old May 3rd, 2005, 03:52 AM   #2
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Old May 3rd, 2005, 03:54 AM   #3
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thank you for a great input!
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Old May 3rd, 2005, 03:59 AM   #4
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Judging by how you scored everyone else, you gave Bepa Z a mark that is higher than she deserves
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Actually I don't expect much from our girls this year . How can Nastya win RG again with such this form. Bepa, Nastya and even Nadia are all in slump . I expect from Nadia more doubles titles this year
Zhenya, Vera D really suck on clay .
Lena B never won 2 matches in a tournament this year
Sveta seems to start playing well but she needs to keep it up to be a real contender for RG title
Like Marat, Dinara can lose to anyone else she wants to.
Masha K , Anna, Lena L can do well this season
Alina, Tatiana P
Only Lena D and Masha S can do something for us. Masha is not bad on clay at all
I also hope Nadia, Sveta, Lena will win alot of doubles titles
And our girls will win at least 2 slams this year
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I think Maria K definitely deserves a mark better than C+...i'd go as far as saying B+ to an A...
Shes already halved her rank in the first few months of the year..

Also Maria S has been performing as well as anyone on the tour so far so B might be hard on her too
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Judging by how you scored everyone else, you gave Bepa Z a mark that is higher than she deserves
it was a tough one to rank... she did win a tournament and she also was sick for a while, so that could hold her back. let's see what she does on clay.
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I think Maria K definitely deserves a mark better than C+...i'd go as far as saying B+ to an A...
Shes already halved her rank in the first few months of the year..

Also Maria S has been performing as well as anyone on the tour so far so B might be hard on her too
Agreed, Maria S. is by far the best Russian player, but she hasn't won any of the 3 big (AO, IW, Miami). And her loss in AO semi was her loss, not S. Williams win IMO...

Masha K. has been playing better this year, but really hasn't had a breakthrough.
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Old May 3rd, 2005, 03:11 PM   #9
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Interesting thread tenn_ace. But Dementieva's grade does not deserve to be close to Sharapova and their results this year bear that out. Masha deserves a B+ so far this year while Elena D deserves a C+.

You should take into account that Masha has only lost to the best players in women's tennis this year in Serena Williams, Lindsay Davenport and Kim Clijsters.

And Kirilenko deserves a B so far this year. Why? Because she's playing much better and much more consistently than her fans thought she would early this year. I am very happy with her progress.

I wonder what GL's grades would be.
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kirilenko should have a higher grade as should douchevina and linetskaya. i think these 3 players have done better than expected from them this year (rather than the opposite)

petrovba started the year ok just had injuries also SF at gold coast i think and 4th round at AO dont remember any other results but i think thats probably a fair grade for her.

bychova is doing well and getting her ranking up their, i think we were hoping she would do this but werent sure she would so maybe give her a B-.

safina i'd give a C+, a tough one to judge but the paris tourament gives her a little more than usual.

vera z probably a D even, sad to say she hasnt performed at all, even when she won that tournament it didnt feel like she had really gained much form.
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You reallie give them low grades..I would give MariaS, Nadia, Svetlana, Dinara, VeraD, Evgenia and MariaK all a letter grade/or half higher. Maria has been pretty good only losing 3 times while winning twice. Nadia has lost only to good players. Svetlana, has a Warsaw final plus 2qf, 1sf, and lost to Mirza and Ana in the other two tournys. They are good up-and-coming players. Dinara won a title plus has only loss to good players in 3 sets, except for Irvin and 2 sets against Maria. VeraD, Evgenia and MariaK have all defeated one top 15 player so far and played consistently.
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Agreed, Maria S. is by far the best Russian player, but she hasn't won any of the 3 big (AO, IW, Miami). And her loss in AO semi was her loss, not S. Williams win IMO...

Masha K. has been playing better this year, but really hasn't had a breakthrough.
Are you even coutning her W-L record and her tournaments? Also the fact that hse is so close to be #1...

I would give Maria an A-, cause she has been jumping in the ranks from points that she didn't have last year. Also she is consistently growing, and even though she gets tired and loses early, she is still up there, making her presence noticeable.
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Are you even coutning her W-L record and her tournaments? Also the fact that hse is so close to be #1...

I would give Maria an A-, cause she has been jumping in the ranks from points that she didn't have last year. Also she is consistently growing, and even though she gets tired and loses early, she is still up there, making her presence noticeable.

at Maria's level the big ones are the ones that really count IMO. Remember how much bad mouthing Kim got when she get to #1 without a GS win ? and remember what was her w-l record at the time? that is your answer.
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How would you rate Russian girls performance in 2005 (as of the end of April)?

Here is mine rating:

2 SHARAPOVA, MARIA B (lost a semi at AO; lost Miami final)
she cant win all and she's young... semi in a GS and miami final is really good for me !! A
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