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Old May 8th, 2003, 04:44 PM   #16
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I truly feel that Billie Jean King would have probably been the best of all time if she hadn't spent sooooo much time trying to get the tour started. She has said many times that she was tired going to meetings and then showing up for a final with no practice or rest. Her persona was so strong that many players feared her. Margaret, Chris, Martina, Virginia Wade and a host of other players all said that she was the most aggressive player they had played against. Her mental state was strong on the court and Rosie Casals said when she was quiet on the court, WATCH OUT. Margaret used to beat Billie jean routinely; however, from 1966 to 1973, their h2h record was 12 to 8 in Billie Jeans favor. It's a shame that they didn't play each other more often during that time. Margaret won more titles, but I would put my money on Billie Jean in a crucial moment in a match. Billie only entered the Australian open 3 times during her prime and the French Open 5 times during her prime. She has stated that the U.S. Federation prohibited her from playing the French Open because they wanted her to play their grass court tournaments.
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Richmond 1970

BJK has said that one of her most satisfying moments was when she won her first Virginia Slims tournament at Richmond in Autumn 1970.
Does anyone have details of that tournament? Also I'd love to know where/when/against whom she won her amateur titles in the 1960s


63 Irish Champs. King def ? score: unknown
66 US Indoors (Longwood) King unknown unknown 292
660300 660000 Johannesburg RSA South African Open King Smith-Court 63 62 257
660620 660700 Wimbledon UK WIMBLEDON King Bueno 63 36 61 305
660900 660900 unknown USA US Hardcourts King unknown unknown 291
670200 670000 Winchester MA US Indoors King unknown unknown 292
670300 670000 Johannesburg RSA South African Open King Bueno 75 57 62 257
670620 670700 Wimbledon UK WIMBLEDON King Haydon 63 64 305
670820 670900 New York NY US OPEN King Haydon 119 64 293
671000 671000 Buenos Aires ARG Argentine Open King Casals 63 36 62 13
671127 671203 Melbourne AUS Victorian Open King Turner 63 36 75 296
680101 680107 Perth AUS Western Australian Open King Smith-Court 61 64 303
680108 680114 Hobart AUS Tasmanian Open King Tegart 62 64 278
680119 680129 Melbourne AUS AUSTRALIAN OPEN King Smith-Court 61 62 26
680214 680217 Winchester MA US Indoors King Casals 63 97 292
680400 680400 Miami FL Miami Tournament King unknown unknown 161
680620 680700 Wimbledon UK WIMBLEDON King Tegart 97 75 305
690401 690412 Johannesburg RSA South African Open King Richey 63 64 257
690414 690420 Durban RSA Natal Open King van Zyl 64 61 179
690707 690712 Dublin IRL Irish Open King Wade 62 62 122
690900 690900 Los Angeles CA Pacific SW King Haydon 62 63 207
691000 690900 Los Angeles CA Los Angeles Classic King Haydon 1715 63 144
691000 691000 Oakland CA Oakland Tournament King unknown unknown 196
691115 691100 Stockholm SWE Scandinavian Indoors King Heldman 97 62 242
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BJK said one of her most satistying moments in tennis was winning her first VS tournament in Richmond in the autumn of 1970. Does anyone have any details about this? Also, I'd love to know where/when she won her amateur titles.
Here's what I have so far (not much):
1963
Irish Champs. def ? score ?
1966
US Indoors (Longwood) def ? score ?
South African Champs. def Smith-Court 63 62
WIMBLEDON def Bueno 63 36 61
US Hardcourts def. ? score ?
1967
US Indoors def ? score ?
South African Champs. def Bueno 75 57 62
WIMBLEDON def. Haydon-Jones 63 64
US Champs def Haydon-Jones 119 64
Argentine Champs def Casals 63 36 62
Victorian Champs def Turner 63 36 75
1968
Western Australian Champs def. Smith-Court 61 64
Tasmanian Champs def. Tegart 62 64
AUSTRALIAN Champs def Smith-Court 61 62
US Indoors def Casals 63 97
Miami Tournament def. ? score ?
WIMBLEDON def Tegart 97 75
1969
South African Champs def Richey 63 64
Natal Champs def van Zyl 64 61
Irish Champs def Wade 62 62
Pacific SW def Haydon-Jones 62 63
Los Angeles Classic def Haydon-Jones 1715 63
Oakland Tournament def ? score ?
Stockholm Indoors def. Heldman 97 62
1970
Oakland Tournament def Haydon-Jones score ?
Sydney Dunlop/NSW Champs def Smith-Court 62 46 63
Natal Open def. Smith-Court 64 26 62
Italian Open def Heldman 61 63
Richmond def ? score ?
British Indoor (Wembley) def Haydon-Jones 86 36 61
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BJK said one of her most satistying moments in tennis was winning her first VS tournament in Richmond in the autumn of 1970. Does anyone have any details about this?
I'll look through my old World Tennis magazines- it seems to me I read something on that recently- I'm always reading and re-reading the old magazines. It's so much more interesting than today's fluff. World Tennis was great!
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I'd be really grateful for any and all info.
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kings records

You may have seen these results in the finals database thread but I shoudl post on here as well. results after 1977 can be found on itf website at
http://www2.itftennis.com/PD/PlayerA...e=A&datesort=A

but there is a few results missing including a mistake as Durr defeated King in 1966 quarter final of the federation cup 57 62 63 (page 156 1967 USLTA yearbook) rather than the other way around.

KINGS RECORDS

1965
W OJAI HARTER
W SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA HARTER 63 61
W CALIFORNIA CASALS 62 86
W PENNSYLVANIA GRAEBNER 61 62
W EASTERN ALBERT 75 63
W ESSEX AUCAMP 62 108
RU NEW SOUTH WALES SMITH-COURT
RU SOUTH AUSTRALIA SMITH-COURT
RU FOREST HILLS SMITH-COURT 86 75
SF WIMBLEDON BUENO 64 57 63

1966
W US INDOOR EISEL 60 62
W THUDERBIRD EISEL 63 62
W SOUTH AFRICA SMITH-COURT 63 62
W SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FRETZ 63 108
W TULSA AUCAMP 60 61
W NORTHERN ENGLAND SHAW 62 61
W WIMBLEDON BUENO 63 36 61
W PIPING ROCK KRANTZCKE 62 60
W OJAI CASALS 62 64
W US HARD COURT HOGAN 75 60
2R US OPEN MELVILLE 64 64

1967
QF NSW CHAMPS TEGART 63 79 60
W VICTORIAN BOWREY 63 36 75
RU SOUTH AUSTRALIAN TEGART 46 61 64
RU NEW ENGLAND EISEL 64 57 119
W NATIONAL INDOOR GROENMAN 61 60
W CALIFORNIA STATE CASALS 61 63
W CHARLOTTE BARTKOWICZ 61 62
W SOUTH ORANGE HARTER 46 62 63
W ESSEX MELVILLE 86 61
W US CHAMPS JONES 119 64
W PACIFIC SOUTHWEST CASALS 60 64

1968
W AUSTRALIAN COURT 61 62
SF FRENCH RICHEY 26 63 64
W WIMBLEDON TAGART 97 75
RU US OPEN WADE 64 62
W WEST AUSTRALIAN COURT 62 64
W TASMANIAN TEGART 62 64
W NEW ENGLAND EISEL 63 64
W NATIONAL US INDOOR CASALS 63 97
W PRO CANNES CASALS 10-6
W FRENCH PRO JONES 97 64
W WEMBLEY PRO JONES 46 97 75
RU MADISON SQUARE GARDENS PRO JONES 64 64
W MASTERS, BINGHAMPTON CASALS 108 64
RU FORT WORTH JONES 61 62
SF MADISON SQUARE GARDENS RICHEY 46 75 60

1969
RU AUSTRALIAN COURT 64 61
QF FRENCH OPEN BOWREY 63 63
RU WIMBLEDON JONES 36 63 62
QF US OPEN RICHEY 64 86
QF TASMANIAN MELVILLE 97 64
SF NSW OPEN CASALS 63 57 75
W MASTERS, BINGHAMPTON JONES 108 36 64
RU LAS VEGAS RICHEY 26 64 61
W SOUTH AFRICAN RICHEY 63 64
W NATAL DU PLOOY 64 61
QF ITALIAN MELVILLE 63 60
SF SOUTH AMERICAN NIESSEN 75 63
RU WEMBLEY JONES 911 62 97
W DUBLIN WADE 62 62
QF GSTAAD PERICOLI 63 63
SF NZ OPEN KRANTZCKE 57 62 63
W PACIFIC SW JONES 62 63
W STOCKHOLM HELDMAN 97 62
RU BRISTOL COURT 63 63

1970
QF FRENCH OPEN NIESSEN 26 86 61
RU WIMBLEDON COURT 1412 119
RU PHILADELPHIA COURT 63 76
RU DALLAS COURT 16 63 119
W RICHMOND RICHEY 63 63
QF NEW YORK WADE 46 61 86
W SYDNEY DUNLOP COURT 62 46 63
RU SOUTH AFRICAN COURT 64 16 63
W NATAL COURT 64 26 62
SF MONACO MELVILLE 62 75
W ITALIAN HELDMAN 61 63
QF BOURNEMOUTH WADE 62 63
SF BERLIN NIESSEN 75 63
1R HOUSTON DALTON 63 63
SF SAN FRANSISCO RICHEY 75 57 64
W WEMBLEY JONES 86 36 61

1971
SF WIMBLEDON GOOLAGONG 64 64
W US OPEN CASALS 64 76
W SAN FRANSISCO RICHEY 64 64
W LONG BEACH CASALS 61 62
W MILWALKEE CASALS 63 62
W OKLAHOMA CASALS 16 76 64
W CHATTANOOGA JONES 64 61
RU FT LAUDERDALE DURR 63 36 63
W WINCHESTER CASALS 46 62 63
W BIRMINGHAM CASALS 36 61 62
RU NEW YORK CASALS 64 64
RU LAS VEGAS JONES 75 64
W SAN DIEGO CASALS 46 75 61
W HOUSTON MELVILLE 64 46 61
RU CHICAGO DURR 64 62
SF NEWPORT MELVILLE 64 63
W NATIONAL CLAY COURT TUERO 64 75
DIVIDED PACIFIC SW CASALS 6-6 withdrew
SF PHILADELPHIA DURR 62 57 76
W LOUISVILLE CASALS 61 46 63
W PHOENIX CASALS 75 61
SF ST PETERSBURG EVERT 67 63 ret
W HAMBURG MASTOFF 63 62
W HOYLAKE CASALS 63 63
W WEMBLEY DURR 61 57 75
RU QUEENS COURT 63 36 63
SF VENICE MASTOFF 26 64 76
RU CHRISTCHURCH DURR 63 60
2R HURLINGHAM TRUMAN
W KITZBUHEL RUSSOUW 62 46 75
SF AUCKLAND MELVILLE 62 57 retired

1972
W FRENCH OPEN GOOLAGONG 63 63
W WIMBLEDON GOOLAGONG 63 63
W US OPEN MELVILLE 63 75
RU DALLAS RICHEY 76 61
W RICHMOND RICHEY 63 64
RU JACKSONVILLE NEUMANNOVA 64 63
W TUSCON DURR 60 63
W INDIANAPOLIS RICHEY 63 63
W BRISTOL MELVILLE 63 62
RU DENVER RICHEY 16 64 64
RU NEWPORT COURT 64 61
W CHARLOTTE COURT 62 62
RU OAKLAND COURT 64 61
W PHOENIX COURT 76 63
QF OKLAHOMA STOVE 63 76
SF SAN JUAN RICHEY 76 61
SF ST PETERSBURG EVERT 62 63
SF COLOMBUS DURR 26 62 62
W SAN FRANSISCO MELVILLE 76 76
SF LONG BEACH DURR 63 60
RU FT LAUDERDALE EVERT 61 60
SF BOCA RATON EVERT 64 62
2R WASHINGTON HELDMAN 36 64 61
W NOTTINGHAM RR CASALS

1973
W WIMBLEDON EVERT 60 75
3R US OPEN HELDMAN 36 64 41 RET
RU CHICAGO COURT 62 46 64
RU BOSTON COURT 62 64
RU NASHVILLE COURT 63 46 62
W INDIANAPOLIS CASALS 57 62 64
W DENVER STOVE 64 62
W PHOENIX RICHEY 61 63
SF HILTON HEAD CASALS 75 64
W TOKYO RICHEY 64 64
W NOTTINGHAM WADE 86 64
SF DETROIT MELVILLE 46 62 61
3R MIAMI KRANTZCKE
QF JACKSONVILLE OVERTON 16 76 76
SF HOUSTON CASALS 76 61
W MOBILE DURR
W HONOLULU GOURLAY 61 61
RU BALTIMORE CASALS

1974
QF WIMBLEDON MOROZOVA 75 62
W US OPEN GOOLAGONG 36 63 75
W SAN FRANSISCO EVERT 76 62
RU MISSION VIEJO EVERT 63 61
W WASHINGTON MELVILLE 60 62
W DETROIT CASALS 61 61
SF CHICAGO WADE 63 76
W AKRON RICHEY 63 75
W NEW YORK EVERT 63 36 62
RU PHILADELPHIA MOROZOVA 76 61
SF ORLANDO HELDMAN 26 61 64
SF PHEONIX WADE 75 61
SF VS FINALS GOOLAGONG 62 46 63
SF HILTON HEAD WADE 63 16 64

1975
W WIMBLEDON GOOLAGONG 60 61
W SARASOTA EVERT 62 63
RU SAN FRANSISCO EVERT 61 61
RU AUSTIN EVERT 46 63 76
SF PHILADELPHIA WADE 36 62 62
RU EASTBOURNE WADE 75 46 64

1976
1R MISSION HILLS FROMHOLTZ 62 64
QF PHOENIX FROMHOLTZ 63 62
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Old Dec 31st, 2003, 12:10 PM   #22
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Great post - as always - AndrewTas. Thx for confirming that fed Cup loss to Durr- some publications give Durr as the winner, others have the opposite result: very irritating.
I can add that:
BJK lost sf Beckenham 1965 to Bueno 62 60 and qf Surbiton to Bentley 62 63.
In 1966 Val Ziegenfuss took BJK out in the Pacific SW Los Angeles but I don't know the score or the round. Here's what I know pre-1965 (not much):

Grand Slam début: 1959 US Championships, lost in the first round to Justyna Bricka 46 75 64, having held a match point.
Lost to Jones 97 3s at Pacific SW before SF
Played Bueno for first time and lost (no idea what tournament)

1960 US Championships
Defeated Julie Heldman 64 62 and Mary Hawton 63 60 before falling in L16 (3r) to Vukovich (#7) 75 64

Played US Clay Courts, won doubles with Hard (def Bricka/Hanks 63 64)

1961 Wimbledon début. Lost her 1st round match (last 64) to Yola Ramirez, seed 5, 119 16 62.
Won the doubles with Karen Hantze.

In the US Champs, lost C. Truman 63 36 62 2nd rd (L32)


1962
Wimbledon: Defeated top seed Margaret Smith-Court 16 63 75 at Wimbledon in second round (Court's first match) and went on to reach qf, unseeded. Lost Haydon-Jones 63 61.

Lost sf Merion GC Pennsylvania to Smith-Court 64 62
Lost sf Eastern GC Orange NJ to Smith-Court 63 64
Lost 1r (L128) US Champs to Victoria Palmer 6-8 5-0 rtd.

1963
Wimbledon: Unseeded, beat Turner (seed 2) 46 64 75, Bueno (7) qf, 62 75, Jones (3) sf 64 64 to finish runner-up to Smith-Court (1) 36 46.

Won Irish Champs
Played USCC – lost doubles final w/ Caldwell to Hard/Bueno 62 62

Lost last 16 US Champs to Dierdre Catt 26 86 75

Reached final Pacific SW, Los Angeles 1963 (bt Bueno 63 64 sf). ??? Lost to Hard in final

1964
Lost f of Southern California to Caldwell 75 36 61
sf at Manchester Northern Tournament UK, abandoned at sf stage (other sf Bueno, Caldwell and Richey).

Semi finalist at Wimbledon d Haydon-Jones 63 63 lost Smith-Court 63 64.

Won Manchester Essex US, def Hantze 64 46 119
Lost final Piping Rock to Richey 63 16 64
US Champs lost QF to Richey 64 64
Won Eastern GC Orange NJ def Richey 75 36 86


1964-5 Australian summer season.
Lost 1r Western Australian to ???
Lost to Turner 108 64 in sf of Queensland GC.
Lost to Schacht in 3r Victorian Championships.
Lost NSW champs singles final to Court 64 63. (won doubles)
Finalist in South Australian to Sherriff, lost 26 64 61. Won doubles w/Ebbern

SF Australian Championships - 1rd bye, defeated Kynaston 62 63, Melville 57 64 61, Ebbern 61 62, lost Smith-Court 61 86.
Doubles finalist w/ Ebbern, def Carr-Vukovich/dening 63 63, van Zyl/Schacht 62 26 63, Baylon/Bueno 62 75, lost Smith-Court/Turner 16 62 63.

If any of you guys can add more info, go ahead. We can complete her career record, hopefully.

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In lots of posts I have read about how Billie Jean was/is critical and bitchy about Evert and her game.

I have only ever heard Billie Jean once befroe and that was of Chris v Martina in Houston and she was VERY positive about Chis throughout the whole match. Where do those stories originate from?

Also, what was the tennis world´s reaction to Billie Jean still playing and winning in the years 81 to 83? I dont remember that era but reading the results is surprising for me that she could still hold up so well after so long.
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A LOT of people don't like Billie Jean in this forum. You're not going to get a fair assesment of Billie Jean around here. But then she was always very much misunderstood and underappreciated. Some things never change...

Billie Jean was friends with Chris & Martina thirty years ago. And she is still friends with both of them today. That should tell you all you need to know about their relationship...
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I would like to think I could be objective about BJ's achievements. It is a fact that she is one of the all time greats. There can be no question that Women's tennis today owes a great deal to her for her activities during the 70s. However I shudder to think what would have happened if Chris Evert had not taken a stand against the women organising a rival tournament to the USO.

I can never forgive her for the 1966 Wightman Cup match against Jones and obviously I don't know her personally but I look at many of the things she has subsequently said and quite honestly I am not sure that I believe her.
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A LOT of people don't like Billie Jean in this forum. You're not going to get a fair assesment of Billie Jean around here. But then she was always very much misunderstood and underappreciated. Some things never change...
Come on, Billie Jean King underappreciated? If anything, I feel that the others (people like Gladys Heldman, for instance) who helped build the WTA Tour in its early days don't get enough credit for doing so because everyone seems to think "Mother Tennis" did it all by herself
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I just watched the Wimbledon video celebrating King's career. Simply fantastic.

They had clips from all her great Wimbledon matches in the 1960s and 1970s-the 1963 final vs. Margaret Court was in color, as was the 1968 tussle vs. Judy Tegart.

Also featured are interviews with Maria Bueno (I was surprised at how great her English is) and Margaret Court. Both women were highly complimentary.

One funny story from Billie Jean was her first Wimbledon. She and Karen Hantze stayed at a boarding house in 1961. The first day the lady who ran it gave them toast. After a couple of wins in the doubles they got the same toast plus a sausage or two. By the time they got to the finals they were stars, and the boarding house lady was feeding her darlings full English breakfasts
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