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Old Jan 27th, 2013, 07:14 PM   #1306
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Agree with the list. only thing I wouldn't quite agree with is Fran over Petra. I'd say that YEC win, multiple semis and higer career ranking is better than slam final loss, but i understand.

Enjoy looking at this after every major.
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Old Jan 27th, 2013, 07:22 PM   #1307
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Well, I said this is my updated list, so, as Azarenka's fan which I think you are, I would expect from you to be happy with this. I still think Ana has bigger overall influence on tennis world, but respecting the rules, it is obvious that someone with 2 GS titles and #1 should be ahead of someone with 1 GS title and #1. But, if Ana would have 2 GS titles, she should be considered greater than Vika with 2 GS IMO.



Li is great but she can't be ahead of Ana, Azarenka or Kuznetsova. If we would consider only off-court influence, I would pick Serena, Maria, Ana and Li as top 4 immediately.
Delusional, Ana will not be remembered in 10 years. She'll go the way of other one slam wonders. I hate to be the one to tell you this but Ana is not that attractive. Shes not a kournikova and wont garner that kind of fame.

Li has competed in all of her slam finals. #1 ranking is a mute point at this point. lots of trash players were able to grab it that shouldnt have. See Ana Ivanovic.

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Old Jan 27th, 2013, 07:38 PM   #1308
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Majors alone are not generally a solid measure of greatness. Especially when a player has won only one or two majors. Other things need to be factored in - like weeks within the top 3, number of overall titles, number of times being in the finals at a major. The idea that - for example - winning one major while not reaching the finals any other time makes a player greater than one who has made the finals multiple times is frankly - ridiculous.
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Delusional, Ana will not be remembered in 10 years. She'll go the way of other one slam wonders. I hate to be the one to tell you this but Ana is not that attractive. Shes not a kournikova and wont garner that kind of fame.

Li has competed in all of her slam finals. #1 ranking is a mute point at this point. lots of trash players were able to grab it that shouldnt have. See Ana Ivanovic.

...and I love the fact that the rest of the world disagrees with you. If we would be at some stadium right now, you would be booed so loud by the audience! Ana deserved her #1 spot and GS title and I hope you will learn how to live with that someday.
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Oh, I see. So you first make a list according to popular support of players, and THEN you create rules which would result in such a list. Makes sense. 'Tis TF after all.
No, that's not why I did it. I gave you a reason, gave you a compliment, and you're spinning it as you see fit.
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Old Jan 27th, 2013, 11:40 PM   #1311
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...and I love the fact that the rest of the world disagrees with you. If we would be at some stadium right now, you would be booed so loud by the audience! Ana deserved her #1 spot and GS title and I hope you will learn how to live with that someday.
Did I say she didnt deserve her slam?

But the fact is shes with a handful of players who turned the #1 ranking into a joke. Ana, Jelena, Wozniaki, Safina. When they were #1 noone actually believed they were.
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at least now Tennisfool doesn't look like a fool , but it's regarding the top of the list
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Did I say she didnt deserve her slam?

But the fact is shes with a handful of players who turned the #1 ranking into a joke. Ana, Jelena, Wozniaki, Safina. When they were #1 noone actually believed they were.
Sorry, but audience is still against you...
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5) Ana IVANOVIC - GS winner, former #1, worldwide superstar, the most beautiful player of all times
6) Svetlana KUZNETSOVA - Two-time GS winner, former #2, very persistent player in the past

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5) Ana IVANOVIC - GS winner, former #1, worldwide superstar, the most beautiful player of all times
6) Svetlana KUZNETSOVA - Two-time GS winner, former #2, very persistent player in the past

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Agree with the list. only thing I wouldn't quite agree with is Fran over Petra. I'd say that YEC win, multiple semis and higer career ranking is better than slam final loss, but i understand.

Enjoy looking at this after every major.
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Agree with the list. only thing I wouldn't quite agree with is Fran over Petra. I'd say that YEC win, multiple semis and higer career ranking is better than slam final loss, but i understand.

Enjoy looking at this after every major.
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Awesome list, love the post-slam updates. Agree with pretty much everything too
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