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Oct 15th, 2001, 05:05 PM
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How to beat Venus when she makes 15 or fewer UEs in a match
I have some ideas, but I'm more interested in yours.
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Oct 15th, 2001, 05:18 PM
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Oct 15th, 2001, 05:37 PM
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1)Shoot Venus in the foot
2)Slip Venus a "mickey" on the change over
3)Hire football player to tackle Venus while she's awaiting serve
4)Hit Venus in knee with tennis racket by "mistake"
5)Hire ball person to replace tennis balls with large ping-pong balls
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This is only a joke. I would never promote any player being hurt. <IMG SRC="smilies/angel.gif" border="0">
[ October 15, 2001: Message edited by: HAIL-VENUS ]
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Oct 16th, 2001, 12:48 AM
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I think if you can match her in the serving department, you can have a chance. I guess you can hope that her 1st serve percentage is pretty dismal but the fact that she'd be making less than 15 UE's in a match means she'd be pretty confident with her whole game (including the serve).
If her opponent can serve big with a good % of 1st serves, stay aggressive and match her power AND make few unforced errors herself, I think this opponent can have a chance. But they would pretty much have to play the match of their lives!!!!
I think in this scenario, girls like Serena, Lindsay or Mary at their respective bests (mental, physical and technical bests) can seriously challenge Venus, but I still think Venus at her best can beat anyone's best.
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Oct 16th, 2001, 01:02 AM
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Venus's serve is so powerful that when she is making very few UEs, she is extremely hard to get close to breaking. Her ability to hit fast, strong and accurate from anywhere on court is also awesome. A player's only hope is to notch up a few games quickly at the start of a match before Venus gets warmed up. Then hold on to your serve to take the first set.
Venus tends to warm up after 4 or so games, so the window isn't wide. if she's leading then, the other player has no real hope. Venus confidence will grow and her speed and power will dominate anyone. Get the first set, and it can be a different story.
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Oct 16th, 2001, 01:49 AM
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How about going to net, and making her try to pass? Maybe she starts making errors.
Don't just hit the ball hard, put heavy spin on it.
Don't just put heavy spin on the ball, hit it hard.
End the point quickly. Venus likes rallying. (Which brings us back to going to net.)
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Oct 16th, 2001, 01:56 AM
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I think it s impossible <IMG SRC="smilies/wavey.gif" border="0">
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Oct 16th, 2001, 02:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by HAIL-VENUS:
<STRONG>1)Shoot Venus in the foot
2)Slip Venus a "mickey" on the change over
3)Hire football player to tackle Venus while she's awaiting serve
4)Hit Venus in knee with tennis racket by "mistake"
5)Hire ball person to replace tennis balls with large ping-pong balls
<IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0">
This is only a joke. I would never promote any player being hurt. <IMG SRC="smilies/angel.gif" border="0">
[ October 15, 2001: Message edited by: HAIL-VENUS ]</STRONG>
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Oct 16th, 2001, 02:10 AM
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Oct 16th, 2001, 02:12 AM
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GOD ,NOW I'AM A JUNIOR ALL OVER AGAIN.
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Oct 16th, 2001, 02:16 AM
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IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME,BEFORE I BECOME A MEMBER THIS TIME.LOST JOB,HAVE TO FIND NEW ONE.LIFE GOES ON AND ON THANK GODDDDD <IMG SRC="smilies/firey.gif" border="0">
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Oct 16th, 2001, 02:19 AM
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pisces - For what its worth, what you wrote read as pure humor to me.
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Oct 16th, 2001, 04:10 AM
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you cant do it.. this is impossible.
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Oct 16th, 2001, 05:03 AM
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most DEFINATELY Venus can lose if she makes 15 unforced errors , because you've skipped the hidden statistic...FORCED ERRORS!.....
if Venus is feeling tight , and not hitting through the ball at 100% of the usual velocity...im sure even if she makes a meagre 15 errors players like Seles , Hinigs , Dokic , Davenport , Serena etc will step in and MOVE Venus...giving her less time to set up and forcing the error , or hitting a winner themself.
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Oct 16th, 2001, 02:08 PM
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SM2K, when Venus is making very few unforced errors, she is usually controlling her power very well, keeping the ball in play, and moving her opponent around. Venus with 15 or less unforced errors = Venus on top of her game. This also includes serving extremely well (power + placement), forcing her opponents into long tiring rallies, coming in to the net on short balls (forced by her powerful and accurate groundstrokes), and most importantly, stealing her opponents confidence.
In other words, it is nearly impossible because 15 or less unforced errors from Vee, probably means a flawless game from Vee.
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