We do not have such a suggestion/discussion thread. The old thread became inactive but I believe it is time we have a new, fresh, and clean one.
Whenever you have an idea, thought, or something to say about the Suicide Game and Tour, insert it here.
I'll begin: Hantu ( DaniKim ) was caught deleting his posts after his pick lost. He has been suspended through the US Open, being able to return at Bali.
In my opinion, if someone edits a post before matches have started, they should get a warning for a first time offense, and some sort of small suspension after - a disqualification for the current tournament, and maybe a suspension for one or two tournaments after.
If someone deletes a post after their pick has lost and then posts a new one like Hantu, a three month suspension off the bat is appropriate, and a permamanent ban is sufficient for a repeat offense.
I think MH is pretty on the money concerning that issue. However, the suspensions he suggested for one or two tournaments, I say if you edit your post another time after, you should get a three month suspension, and then again, permanent ban.
And because I'm just a nerd, when I won Warsaw the final day had this neat winner/RU/SF line up going on, and then I saw that Cincy didn't have that (since the situations were so different), but when is the cut off for semifinalists? Is someone who made the final day but didn't have a pick a finalist or is that just the person who was in Day07 but had the wrong pick?
SF and Finalists are determined by who comes in 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Whenever those may be, whether it be on the final day, or Day 5, the finalist and semifinalist can be determined. Cincinnati can have semifinalists but I most likely did not determine them for the sake of it not being a ranking issue. For the US Open Series, semifinalists will be determined.
I know this is a little early, but I also think we need to fix the ranking points to reflect the changes the WTA made to their ranking points. We could always wait the extra year though, seeing as the WTA is going to have to change their points again when they kill the tier system in 2009.
I disagree. I feel the points are in an okay ratio. Unless everyone wants to reflect the WTA exactly, I feel that we should only bump the grand slams to the present total. The Tier IIIs and IVs are harder to win than the IIs and Is. The Tier I's are much easier to get to Day 7 and get the most points -- it should be the other way around. I think we should reward those who can succeed at the lower Tier's. Besides, 370 for a Tier I win is not far off from the 430 a Tier I champion gets in the WTA.
What about Suicide Doubles? I mean not 2 Suicide players together, but a tournament following the Doubles Draw .. I can run Both signles and doubles in my Luxembourg, I could do it in Koper a week earlier but I believe there will be few players
It's only easier to pick the TI events because it's almost a foregone conclusion who's going to win half the time. In the lower events "upsets" happen all the time. Although something needs to be done about Day04 winners in TIV events getting 24 points to a title. It's a cheap title and has no pizzazz to it. I was proud as hell to win Warsaw, I can't imagine the same could be said for the winner of Stockholm.
About changing the points system, how much different is it going to be? (Probably a stupid question but I don't really keep up with all the changes the WTA is making.) And without a semblance of tiers in the new schedule (as it seems,) is Stockholm going to be the same amount of points as Los Angeles now, since they aren't the top nine non-slam events? I don't know how MTF runs that deal, although I presume it'd be similar.
We technically could've changed the points for 2007, because the points we give out now are based on the WTA 2006 point distribution :shrug: We can leave it as is, again, for 2008... but I suppose with this roadmap business it may need to be revamped a bit.
I also wanted some clarification about BUs. Two people have complained about my choice of back-ups as they were the opponents of my main pick, and I was wondering if there was a specific rule on that? In The Zone said it was fine but I was wondering if that could be clarified in the rules or some mention was made either way, something.
I actually misinformed you. I thought I could have sworn an instance where someone withdrew and someone who took the opponent who received the walkover was given a victory. Apparently, this was not the case. If Hantuchova is playing Dementieva, and Hantuchova withdraws, the people who chose Dementieva as a pick will not count and their backup will be used. So as I know, you do your pick's opponent but now, this would not work. Sorry for the confusion. I could have sworn I saw this used but apparently I was wrong.
Walkovers do not count in any form. Whether it be for you or against you.
if I had picked Dementieva for Day04, and my BU was Hantuchova, since Hantuchova retired my pick would be rendered obsolete? If that's the case, that makes no sense, Dementieva still won. It's like not counting her victory over Hantuchova as a real one. Now, if you meant that if someone chose Hantuchova and had Dementieva as a BU...then I'd understand.
Retirements do count as completed matches, your BU is used ONLY if a player withdraws from the tournament OR gives a WO. You're through to day 5 with Dementieva. Though you're BU pick was wrong, since in case of a WO, you'd be put without a pick Dementieva-Hantuchova match picks wouldnt count at all
How was it before? I think an amount of players must represent the countries, and the Captain must make a pick in colaboration with the team, and if the pick of a team is wrong, they lose :shrug:
A certain amount of countries having a Fed Cup Squad (like 4 players) and each player PMing 1 player each day from the Fed Cup OOP... and whichever team has the most survivors moves on to the next round (or better TB if the case may be) :shrug:
The problem with that is you will very likely end up with a lot of ties. We could also do it like real fed cup style in that you are scheduled to face a certain player. Say Canada VS USA
Me and you are scheduled as the first singles match for our respective countries. We would each have to send a PM to the manager of the fed cup thread.
Now I was thinking we could do this in one of two ways. The first being, the manager of fed cup will pick 5 matches that each player would have to make a pick from. The manager will also chose in which order the picks will be used.
For example:
1) Dani vs Kim
2) Venus vs Patty
3) Maria vs Peng
4) Serena vs Martina
5) Nadia vs Na
So each player must pick a winner for each match. The way the winner of the match will be decided will be whoever survives the longest. If we both get match one correct, we go to match 2, if I picked wrong and died, and you correctly picked you would win the tie for USA even if the rest of your picks were wrong.
The second option would be, instead of having the manager pick 5 matches, each player could chose their own 5 matches and PM the manager in the order in which they want to be used.
Yes unfortunately they do count. I still think this rule is terrible, because player A made a closer match then player B, yet the person that picked player B wins.
Guyz, I have a problem .. Chris84 and HenryMag have made the same picks throughout the whole week, there are 2 dif in their BUs .. I haevnt really followed the discussions ehre during the last months, so I count the nr of games lost by BU Picks or the one who posted 1st wins? :shrug:
I'm doing the RPD now, but I have a problem .. Chris_84 and HenryMag had picks on day6 but I didnt, but we are supposed to get same points .. what about making a change in the R Ps to make day6(with pick) and just day 6?
Because you did not have 12 players, then they are awarded Day 6 Invalid points but HenryMag is awarded the title. They both receive the same amount of points but HenryMag is champion.
No. It's fine. He did it fast enough where there wasn't even an edited time. It was not plotted or malicious. And it doesn't matter anyway .. Krajicek is his backup which is what would be used -- and he kept Krajicek as his main pick. No big deal.
Sorry 2 B annoying but it's the 1st tournament with seedings Im running so if a seed fails to make a pick on day2 is he replaced by the next one 2 be seeded?
LudwigDvorak picks Poutchek (BU: Govortsova) thinking that Poutchek won. She didn't. He re-posts a pick with Cibulkova (BU: Govortsova). Am I supposed to take Govortsova or can I take Cibulkova?
I will be unable to continue to use WTAWorld for the time being. My life is being taken away from me. I can't get into details but work, school -- everything is gone. Until further notice, I am inactive and I cannot help. I will not be seen on WTAWorld for quite some time ( if you do see me, it's not real ).
I'm sorry for everyone that this affects in a bad way. I know I had promises and obligations and contributions to help this game.