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Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur




What is Tennis Tipping?

In the game, participants pick the winners of all main draw matches and are placed in a knock-out system. That means each participant plays a different participant and whoever predicted the winner of most matches correctly, moves on to the next round. The same applies for doubles, but you're in a team format and your scores are combined.

Note:
- In case of a tie, new SR/TB rules (2015) will decide who moves on to the next round.
New SR/TB rules: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=425109

- In case a player (i.e. the actual WTA Player) retires in a match, the new retirement rule will decide whether the match will or won't be counted (http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=18890744&postcount=1). If players are replaced by a lucky loser after the start of Tennis Tipping, these matches will be cancelled.

How to Sign-Up:

Just post here that you would like to play. You can only play one tournament per week. Entries will be based on ranking. Everyone can commit.

More information: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=425105

How to send in picks:

Picks can be sent in as soon as the draws are ready. Remember, you pick a winner inevery match! Picks should be sent by PM, so that your opponent does not know your picks. Picks should be titled: [TT: Kuala Lumpur - #day]. Picks can be sent in anytime until the beginning of play each day. If you are in singles and doubles then you can use different picks for each if you want to. For doubles, you still tip the WTA singles matches, not the doubles! No changes can be made after the play has started.

In case of emergencies/pick sending problems: Only in case of circumstances that a tt player cannot send picks to the manager of the tournament one can send his picks to the below e-mail address. The board will be able to access this account and picks sent here will be counted as normal. Please note that it should ONLY be used in emergencies. Also, a person who uses this method of sending picks should alert the tournament manager and a board member as soon as possible because the account won't necessarily be checked every day.

tennistipping@hotmail.com

Good Luck, your manager DJDVD.
 
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#92 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

EL updated :)
 
#94 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

First Deadline over :wavey:
 
#95 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Entry Lists

Code:
[b][u]TT Singles Main Draw Entry List (Rankings from 16-02-2015)[/b][/u] 
01 AdeyC (GBR)                    2           (4728)
02 mateusz2904 (POL)              4           (4375)
03 M.P (HKG)                      6           (3305)
04 Christork17 (FRA)              11          (2735)
05 SAISAI-GOAT (ESP)              13 SE       (2617)
06 shuai.P (CHN)                  15          (2531)
07 wikuch (POL)                   17          (2327)
08 feifei (CHN)                   18          (2299)
09 Drake1980 (CAN)                24          (2088)
10 petey_pan (AUS)                26          (1999)
[COLOR=Red]   sdtoot (GBR)                   29          (1928) OUT [/COLOR]
11 chenhw (FIN)                   30          (1925)
12 joe87 (AUT)                    31          (1918)
13 Meelis (EST)                   32          (1890)
14 Michael! (GER)                 33          (1887)
15 Dinesh! (IND)                  34          (1865)
16 digor (UKR)                    36          (1784)
17 Elwin. (NED)                   40          (1711)
18 Freshi (GER)                   41          (1702)
19 kondrashov (RUS)               45          (1658)
20 valac222 (HUN)                 46          (1651)
21 Andreas (DEN)                  47          (1650)
22 DennisNL (NED)                 49          (1613)
23 Fantasy Hero (ITA)             50          (1604)
24 saarsngg (SIN)                 51          (1592)
25 Crux Squall (RUS)              52          (1580)
26 rvugt (NED)                    53          (1567)
27 ^bibi^ (BEL)                   55          (1541)
28 ZEUS77 (GRE)                   63 SE       (1438)
29 Q
30 Q
31 Q
32 Q
Code:
[b][u]TT Singles Qualifying Draw Entry List (Rankings from 16-02-2015)[/b][/u] 
01 FORZA SARITA (ITA)             59          (1487)
02 Buitenzorg (AUS)               62          (1449)
03 coolfish1103 (USA)             65          (1429)
04 zigga (SLO)                    68          (1387)
05 Javi. (ESP)                    71          (1333)
06 Barktra (USA)                  72          (1332)
07 Shaddad (EGY)                  73          (1321)
08 Dementieva_Dude (CAN)          82          (1096)
09 Suit Up! (AUS)                 83          (1089)
10 In The Zone (USA)              84          (1069)
11 TheJoh (RUS)                   85          (1029)
12 catgamer (GER)                 88          (976)
13 *Jean* (FRA)                   89          (973)
14 HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)             91          (936)
15 Nightcrawl3r (ROU)             100         (889)
16 come on lena (GRE)             104         (847)
Code:
[b][u]TT Singles Alternates (Rankings from 16-02-2015)[/b][/u] 
ALT01 The Walking Bye (NZL)       112         (736)
[COLOR=Red]      Allez-Alejo (USA)           116         (695) OUT [/COLOR]
ALT02 SrbTeen (SRB)               123         (650)
ALT03 goOudinUSA (USA)            138         (529)
ALT04 Sam. (BEL)                  142         (498)
ALT05 Martn7 (ESP)                143         (490)
[COLOR=Red]      Daszmarelli (BRA)           145         (475) OUT [/COLOR]
ALT06 Tennisfan06 (EST)           152         (445)
ALT07 Shilin (AUS)                172         (299)
ALT08 salmon pants. (USA)         175         (290)
ALT09 ¤CharlDa¤ (CAN)             189         (239)
ALT10 JustPetko (POL)             197         (194)
ALT11 Xiu ZhiFu (CHN)             200         (163)
ALT12 maxomax (CAN)               231         (79)
ALT13 ianb29 (XXX)                NR          (0)
Code:
 [b][u] Seeded players - Main Draw [/b][/u] 
01 AdeyC (GBR)
02 mateusz2904 (POL)
03 M.P (HKG)
04 Christork17 (FRA)
05 SAISAI-GOAT (ESP)
06 shuai.P (CHN)
07 wikuch (POL)
08 feifei (CHN)
Code:
 [b][u] Seeded players - Qualifying Draw [/b][/u] 
01 FORZA SARITA (ITA)
02 Buitenzorg (AUS)
03 coolfish1103 (USA)
04 zigga (SLO)
05 Javi. (ESP)
06 Barktra (USA)
07 Shaddad (EGY)
08 Dementieva_Dude (CAN)
Code:
[b][u]TT Doubles Main Draw Entry List (Rankings from 16-02-2015)[/b][/u] 
01 AdeyC/mateusz2904 (GBR/POL)                 5 +   6 =  11    (6125 + 5927 = 12052)
02 Buitenzorg/Christork17 (AUS/FRA)           13 +  14 =  27    (4321 + 4225 = 8546)
03 Michael!/joe87 (GER/AUT)                   25 +  29 =  54    (3493 + 3433 = 6926)
04 Xiu ZhiFu/feifei (CHN)                     26 +  30 =  56    (3479 + 3430 = 6909)
05 valac222/Kəv. (HUN/AUS)                    24 +  33 =  57    (3496 + 3318 = 6814)
06 *Jean*/Drake1980 (FRA/CAN)                 23 +  38 =  61    (3546 + 3046 = 6592)
07 SAISAI-GOAT/HAOCHEN-GOAT (ESP)             39 +  40 =  79    (3005 + 3004 = 6009)
08 Shaddad/chenhw (EGY/FIN)                   37 +  43 =  80    (3178 + 2965 = 6143)
09 Meelis/^bibi^ (EST/BEL)                    20 +  66 =  86    (3828 + 1926 = 5754)
10 digor/kondrashov (UKR/RUS)                 44 +  48 =  92    (2937 + 2861 = 5798)
11 FORZA SARITA/Javi. (ITA/ESP)               31 +  69 = 100    (3425 + 1892 = 5317)
12 petey_pan/Barktra (AUS/USA)                54 +  55 = 109    (2370 + 2370 = 4740)
13 zigga/DennisNL (SLO/NED)                   57 +  60 = 117    (2110 + 2083 = 4193)
14 ¤CharlDa¤/maxomax (CAN)                   185 + 191 = 376 SE ( 318 +  278 =  596)
15 Q 
16 Q
Code:
[b][u]TT Doubles Qualifying Draw Entry List (Rankings from 16-02-2015)[/b][/u]
01 Andreas/Fantasy Hero (DEN/ITA)             59 +  62 = 121    (2096 + 2034 = 4130) 
02 SrbTeen/TheJoh (SRB/RUS)                   61 +  71 = 132    (2057 + 1873 = 3930)
03 M.P/shuai.P (HKG/CHN)                      64 +  79 = 143    (1938 + 1646 = 3584)
04 Dementieva_Dude/In The Zone (CAN/USA)      72 +  72 = 144    (1785 + 1785 = 3570)
05 coolfish1103/Dinesh! (USA/IND)             56 +  92 = 148    (2152 + 1503 = 3655)
06 goOudinUSA/catgamer (USA/GER)              63 +  95 = 158    (1997 + 1483 = 3480)
07 JustPetko/Monzanator (POL)                 85 +  85 = 170    (1578 + 1578 = 3156)
08 Sam./rvugt (BEL/NED)                       70 + 104 = 174    (1885 + 1359 = 3244)
Code:
[b][u]TT Doubles Alternates (Rankings from 16-02-2015)[/b][/u]
[COLOR=Red]      sdtoot/ALYOUNA (GBR/CHN)                   17 + 178 = 195    (4025 +  392 = 4417) OUT [/COLOR] 
ALT01 Suit Up!/The Walking Bye (AUS/NZL)        125 + 127 = 252    (1036 + 1031 = 2067)
[COLOR=Red]      Allez-Alejo/Martn7 (USA/ESP)              108 + 166 = 274    (1247 +  466 = 1713) OUT [/COLOR] 
[COLOR=Red]      Daszmarelli/come on lena (BRA/GRE)        133 + 158 = 291    ( 967 +  557 = 1524) OUT [/COLOR]
Code:
 [b][u] Seeded doubles teams - Main Draw [/b][/u] 
01 AdeyC/mateusz2904 (GBR/POL)
02 Buitenzorg/Christork17 (AUS/FRA)
03 Michael!/joe87 (GER/AUT)
04 Xiu ZhiFu/feifei (CHN)
Code:
 [b][u] Seeded double teams - Qualifying Draw [/b][/u] 
01 Andreas/Fantasy Hero (DEN/ITA)
02 SrbTeen/TheJoh (SRB/RUS)
03 M.P/shuai.P (HKG/CHN)
04 Dementieva_Dude/In The Zone (CAN/USA)
Code:
[B][U]Players free for doubles [/U][/B] 
 - Elwin. = 52
 - Nightcrawl3r = 77
 - saarsngg = 119
 - wikuch = 124
 - ZEUS77 = 155
 - come on lena = 158
 - Martn7 = 166
 - Crux Squall = 194
 - salmon pants. = 197
 - Freshi = 205
 - Shilin = 245
 - Tennisfan06 = NR
 - ianb29 = NR
 
#96 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Ya have til tomorrow 6 PM CET to withdraw from this tournament ;)
 
#97 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

FORZA 1st Out MD and The Walking Bye 1st Out QD :sobbing:

Oh well I did what I can to help you guys, accepting my SE WC :awww:

maybe someone will withdraw :oh:
 
#98 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

FORZA 1st Out MD and The Walking Bye 1st Out QD :sobbing:

Oh well I did what I can to help you guys, accepting my SE WC :awww:

maybe someone will withdraw :oh:
Everytime ya post in my tournaments, I'm scared I did something wrong :sobbing:
 
#100 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

SAISAI-GOAT is not using his SE WC (as he is in MD anyway) it is transferred to sd3300123
Bummel/Kirilenko-Fan is not using their SE WC (as Kirilenko-Fan is in Monterrey MD) it is transferred to Buitenzorg/sergiopoker
 
#103 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Please read ATB thread #4148. SAISAI does not have the choice, his SE is transferred.


And if the SE holder is in the MD at first deadline then SE should be automatically transferred and SE_ALT should also be informed)
 
#107 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Please read ATB thread #4148. SAISAI does not have the choice, his SE is transferred.


And if the SE holder is in the MD at first deadline then SE should be automatically transferred and SE_ALT should also be informed)
if that is the case, why did you PM me to inform me that I earned the SE and in order to use the SE I must go in the Kuala Lumpur thread and say that I want to use the SE :eek:
 
#104 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Anw the old system of SE was so much better. At least you had to win a ITF to earn your right to take a MD place over a player who earned by ranking. To reserve in every MM 2 spots for ITF players based of a ITF race doesn't make much sense imho.
We award being consistent on ITF over being being consistent on WTA

EDIT: So SSG is being taken out the SE. God, I hate these stupid rules who make no sense whatsoever :facepalm:
 
#110 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Seriously Laszlo this is so wrong. It's really forced to make another SE in out of the blue.
Saisai-Goat earned his right and he uses it at his convenience.
He could have transfered it to anyone else but his choice was not to. Period.
 
#111 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Seriously Laszlo this is so wrong. It's really forced to make another SE in out of the blue.
Saisai-Goat earn his right and he uses it at his convenience
He could have transfered it to anyone else but his choice was not to. Period.
yes exactly, because otherwise the all my sweat, tears and hard work at those ITF tournaments in February basically amounts to nothing at all :yawn:

and this will make the SE system MUCH more complicated because every single week if the player / team that earned the SE did not use it (either they are ranked high enough to enter MD without SE, they are not playing that tournament) then you have to keep offering it to the next person on the list until one person takes it :confused:

when does it stop :eek:
 
#112 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Read ATB, complain to the Board (I am forced to follow rules) Period.



and if you ask my personal opinion then SE should never be transferred. But then some "complainer" will cry out loud that :cry: poor low ranked players :cry:
 
#114 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Read ATB, complain to the Board (I am forced to follow rules) Period.

and if you ask my personal opinion then SE should never be transferred. But then some "complainer" will cry out loud that :cry: poor low ranked players :cry:
I just did in the ATP thread :ras:

but FORZA, Javi. and The Walking Bye :sobbing: :hug:
 
#113 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

The board is on it :oh:
 
#115 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Anyhow, there are 2 things which never should be done:

Never change the taxation law during the year
Never change the rule during the tourney. When SE race was over (based on the ATB ruling) I PMed to SE ALTs to be ready as Blackeagle and NA-MUG cannot use their SE.

BTW There was a rule last year that TOP 30 cannot have an SE, does it disappeared?
 
#116 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Anyhow, there are 2 things which never should be done:

Never change the taxation law during the year
Never change the rule during the tourney. When SE race was over (based on the ATB ruling) I PMed to SE ALTs to be ready as Blackeagle and NA-MUG cannot use their SE.
That's the problem. There is no such rule ;)
 
#120 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

SE holders have to request their SE till Monday 6PM CET (24 hours after the first deadline).
If they don´t request their SE in time then it gets transferred to the SE ALTs (the next person/team in the race), who can request it until 2nd deadline of a tournament.
it´s true, it is written differently in the rule but to be honest, I thought that it would be obvious that a player who doesn´t needs his/her SE won´t use/request it, if he/she is in MD anyway, why would anyone want to do that when he doesn´t need it, while someone else on the Challenger/SE race behind him would be glad if he could earn that spot?
Makes zero sense to me at all and I think that the board has no problem to change the wording of the rule..
The fact that the current SE System might not be perfect etc. is another question, that´s what we will discuss again at the end of the season.
 
#121 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

it´s true, it is written differently in the rule but to be honest, I thought that it would be obvious that a player who doesn´t needs his/her SE won´t use/request it, if he/she is in MD anyway, why would anyone want to do that when he doesn´t need it, while someone else on the Challenger/SE race behind him would be glad if he could earn that spot?
Makes zero sense to me at all and I think that the board has no problem to change the wording of the rule..
The fact that the current SE System might not be perfect etc. is another question, that´s what we will discuss again at the end of the season.
Oh dear :facepalm:

Maybe just the current SE holder prefer to hold the SE so as the top ranked Alt take the spot in the MD instead gifting it to a random person?
 
#124 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Oh dear :facepalm:

Maybe just the current SE holder prefer to hold the SE so as the top ranked Alt take the spot in the MD instead gifting it to a random person?
SE_"ALTs" are never random, they obviously achieved some wins at Challenger tournaments + it is impossible to satsify everyone anyway,in the past tons of people complained about it how difficult it is to get into WTA Draws etc. etc. and now people complain about it when we say that the SE gets transfered to the next person of the race (again, not random) when the original holder of the SE is already in MD anyway!

and as you said it yourself, the current SE holder PREFERS, so what happens next?
SAISAI-GOAT (for example) likes the 1st seed of Q so he decides to keep his SE spot in such a case and at some other tournament he hates the 1st seed of Q and decides not to take it? :p

that would only cause drama so we need a a clear rule here ;)
 
#132 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

SE_"ALTs" are never random, they obviously achieved some wins at Challenger tournaments + it is impossible to satsify everyone anyway,in the past tons of people complained about it how difficult it is to get into WTA Draws etc. etc. and now people complain about it when we say that the SE gets transfered to the next person of the race (again, not random) when the original holder of the SE is already in MD anyway!

and as you said it yourself, the current SE holder PREFERS, so what happens next?
SAISAI-GOAT (for example) likes the 1st seed of Q so he decides to keep his SE spot in such a case and at some other tournament he hates the 1st seed of Q and decides not to take it? :p

that would only cause drama so we need a a clear rule here ;)
in general, it is very seldom that the player that wins the SE is already in the MD :shrug:

in this case I happen to love both the TOP SEED of QD FORZA :ignore: and the 1st Out of QD The Walking Bye :hi5:

so it is the least that I could do, to use my SE which I earned by winning Sunrise as a Qualifier and reaching Midland SF as a Qualifer, to improve their chances of getting in MD and QD :awww:

but if The Board really feels this way, then I don't know why I received a PM from Laszlo informing me that if I would like to use my SE for Kuala Lumpur, I should commit to Kuala Lumpur informing DJDVD that I wanted to use the SE :eek: it was obvious my ranking was not going to fall below the cutoff for this tournament and it could have been offered to the SE-ALT way ahead of time :p

actually having an SE a big reason I am even playing here, I probably would have played Monterrey if it wasn't for having an SE here :sad:

anyway I just want to point out to the Board that this SE system becomes much harder to administer than the one in place last year ... in the one last year, specific players had the SE and they either used it or not ... in the one now, you have the SE Holder and you have to monitor whether they will use it ... if they don't you have to offer it to the SE-ALT etc.

and that brings me back to the earlier question ... if SE-ALT does not use it, there is always SE-ALT 2, SE-ALT 3, so how many people will you offer it to and what is the timeline to offer it :confused:
 
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#128 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

I'll update it tomorrow after the withdrawal deadline ;)
 
#129 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Could you guys make a definitive decision:eek: I'm currently last in Q, but if you hand out an SE I go to ALT1:eek: If you only make your decision at the WD deadline, I don't get to choose between here and Curibita:eek:

As I said, the 'SE' isn't valid anymore as it's past the 1st deadline, so can we just agree, either Saisai takes it, or no SE this week, while we make a poll and discuss rules to be valid from Week 11 onwards:shrug:
 
#130 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

Could you guys make a definitive decision:eek: I'm currently last in Q, but if you hand out an SE I go to ALT1:eek: If you only make your decision at the WD deadline, I don't get to choose between here and Curibita:eek:

As I said, the 'SE' isn't valid anymore as it's past the 1st deadline, so can we just agree, either Saisai takes it, or no SE this week, while we make a poll and discuss rules to be valid from Week 11 onwards:shrug:
SAISAI-GOAT can't request the SE. sd3300123 has till the second deadline to request a SE

So for now, ^bibi^ is in the QD and come on lena is ALT01
 
#131 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

That doesn't make sense:eek: With 'Se's if you entered after 1st deadline, they weren't valid.

Why are we changing it now:rolleyes: Especially when there doesn't seems to even be a rule for anything relating to these new SE's.

Also, Sd00121221 isn't entered here, so if he were too, he would be last ALT:scratch:
 
#135 ·
Re: Tennis Tipping #10b - Kuala Lumpur - Commit! =)

In other news, I'm obviously out. ;)
 
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