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Old Jun 25th, 2014, 06:50 PM   #736
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Re: *Vika Azarenka Cheering Thread* - Vikalume 5.

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Not a troll. I just think some of you are being very silly, which is usually the case in these Player Forums after the player has lost but still.

Azarenka has to play better and get fitter, players aren't all of a sudden "fluking" wins over her and playing the matches of their existence.
Well then answer the question. What is the best match played and the biggest win of Jovanovski´s career, since you dispute it was today.
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Old Jun 25th, 2014, 06:53 PM   #737
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Re: *Vika Azarenka Cheering Thread* - Vikalume 5.

Vika's basically forgotten how to win matches. I was actually pretty confident heading into this week. There was a point in this match from about 2-4 in the 1st to the end of the 2nd where Vika was playing really well, and was actually more dominant than the scoreboard suggested in that time. I really don't know how she lost in the end. She let so many chances go. The overriding feeling after the match is one of deflation. Vika could really do with winning some tight matches, for whatever reason she's simply not winning big points right now.

I almost feel like she should play again before Canada. She needs matches imo, and she needs wins. I don't know where though, Stanford/Washington, I don't think she should play 3 weeks in a row. The US hard court calendar really sucks now. The only option is like Baku... In other words there are no options.
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Old Jun 25th, 2014, 06:56 PM   #738
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The giorgi match was different, camila controlled the match and vika only started to edge her way in towards the end.

If vika keeps working, play like today and the wins will flow.
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Old Jun 25th, 2014, 06:58 PM   #739
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Re: *Vika Azarenka Cheering Thread* - Vikalume 5.

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I almost feel like she should play again before Canada. She needs matches imo, and she needs wins. I don't know where though, Stanford/Washington, I don't think she should play 3 weeks in a row. The US hard court calendar really sucks now. The only option is like Baku... In other words there are no options.
She will be playing, she's playing WTT for Philly..some nice easy no pressure matches there.
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Well then answer the question. What is the best match played and the biggest win of Jovanovski´s career, since you dispute it was today.
I don't know, I don't watch much Jovanovski. I don't think Azarenka as it stands today is much of a big win though, looking at the players she's lost to and also how routinely she's lost to some of the top 10 players she's faced recently. This is probably on par with Jovanovski's wins over Wozniacki.
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Old Jun 25th, 2014, 07:03 PM   #741
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Re: *Vika Azarenka Cheering Thread* - Vikalume 5.

I definitely think Vika just needs more matches, especially tight matches. You can't train or practice for tight matches and tight games, you just have to play them and adapt to the situation. I feel that all her mental toughness has collapsed due to her absence for the last few months not to mention the struggling she had between last year's US Open and Indian Wells. She has to rebuild her match confidence with winning matches and having to problem solve more and hopefully she'll be able to do that this summer on the hardcourts.
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Old Jun 25th, 2014, 07:07 PM   #742
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She will be playing, she's playing WTT for Philly..some nice easy no pressure matches there.
Against who though? Who do you even play in WTT? Isn't it like college players? She needs something a bit more competitive than that.

I mainly just want her going into the US Open in some kind of form. Not still scratching around for some wins. If she gets them in Canada and Cincinnati then fine there's nothing to worry about.
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Against who though? Who do you even play in WTT? Isn't it like college players? She needs something a bit more competitive than that.

I mainly just want her going into the US Open in some kind of form. Not still scratching around for some wins. If she gets them in Canada and Cincinnati then fine there's nothing to worry about.
WTT is usually former players, many of the Hall of Famers, mid ranked players(you're 50-150 ranged) and then the current stars (Vika would be the current star). It's competitive but it's very rapid (no ad scoring) but it's not as intense as regular matches. That said, it's still additional practice in match conditions without pressure and any little bit should help.
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Re: *Vika Azarenka Cheering Thread* - Vikalume 5.

Us series may well come too early for her. After USO last year she hasn't played really serious tennis. It usually takes longer than a few months to fully regain form after such a long break. She'll be fine at the AO next year at least.
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Us series may well come too early for her. After USO last year she hasn't played really serious tennis. It usually takes longer than a few months to fully regain form after such a long break. She'll be fine at the AO next year at least.
This is a bit what I think too. For me this is already a lost season, meaning she's not going to be a contender to win the USO or is going to make it to the YEC, but she still can have a good HC season, that is, maybe get some top 10 win and go deep into some draw. If she does that it will be fine by me, everything else would be a bonus really, even if today there were parts of the match were she managed to play at a very high level, but the consistency, BP conversion, ability to win big points and timing are still poor. She needs more and more matches to get gradually into sync.

Victoria looks fitter, but imo is still not enough. She has to drop at least 3 kg to be perfectly fine.
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Old Jun 25th, 2014, 08:18 PM   #746
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Re: *Vika Azarenka Cheering Thread* - Vikalume 5.

Alas I didn't get to see any of this match. I hope you guys who said she played well are right.
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Old Jun 25th, 2014, 08:45 PM   #747
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Alas I didn't get to see any of this match. I hope you guys who said she played well are right.
I would say saying she played well is stretching it.

There was a period of the match from about 2-4 in the first to the end of the 2nd set where I thought she was looking close to her best. But you can see where she isn't. For one the 2nd set really should have been won by a wider margin, Vika was completely dominating the match, it should have been 6-1 (Vika had break point in all of Jovanovski's service games in the 2nd set). Then immediately at the start of the 3rd she lost momentum. It was bad match play, that allowed it to be a slugfest. Then she should have broken at both 4-4 and 5-5. Then gets broken from 40-0.

All things being said it was probably like a 5-6/10 on a scale. When it was good, it looked good. But the start was really bad. To lose control of the match at the start of the 3rd was bad.

I am not as negative as some. In that I think Vika is on the verge of returning to her best. She looks the fittest she has in some time. The signs when she plays well were good today. It's just stringing it together. The time off has most affected her match play imo, because I actually think she played better tennis in a lot of matches she was winning say at last years US Open. But back then her match play was top notch, right now it's pretty bad.
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Re: *Vika Azarenka Cheering Thread* - Vikalume 5.

Ugh I'm not used to the feeling that Vika is the one being upset all the time in these big tournaments (bar injuries). This sucks, we'll have to wait a while again before she's on court next.

Those missed sitters were...
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I would say saying she played well is stretching it.

There was a period of the match from about 2-4 in the first to the end of the 2nd set where I thought she was looking close to her best. But you can see where she isn't. For one the 2nd set really should have been won by a wider margin, Vika was completely dominating the match, it should have been 6-1 (Vika had break point in all of Jovanovski's service games in the 2nd set). Then immediately at the start of the 3rd she lost momentum. It was bad match play, that allowed it to be a slugfest. Then she should have broken at both 4-4 and 5-5. Then gets broken from 40-0.

All things being said it was probably like a 5-6/10 on a scale. When it was good, it looked good. But the start was really bad. To lose control of the match at the start of the 3rd was bad.

I am not as negative as some. In that I think Vika is on the verge of returning to her best. She looks the fittest she has in some time. The signs when she plays well were good today. It's just stringing it together. The time off has most affected her match play imo, because I actually think she played better tennis in a lot of matches she was winning say at last years US Open. But back then her match play was top notch, right now it's pretty bad.
I thought she showed some of her best tennis of the match late in the third set where she defended quite well, hit some nice winners and dominated some long and intense rallies. I agree that overall Vika seems to be on the right track. There are definitely some positive signs in her game and attitude.
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