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Old Mar 3rd, 2014, 04:41 PM   #301
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"There aren't many playersi in Venezuela so I'd be the protagonist, I'd get more attention and they'd take better care of me" ("mimar" means "to indulge" but I just don't like how it sounds )
Thanks! She grew up in Spain and learned to play tennis there, so i would not really understand if she decides to play for Venezuela even if she has an venezuelan origin. But of course, it's her decision. But i hope it won't be for economic reasons.
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Thanks! She grew up in Spain and learned to play tennis there, so i would not really understand if she decides to play for Venezuela even if she has an venezuelan origin. But of course, it's her decision. But i hope it won't be for economic reasons.
For real? I would be very surprised if there were no economic reasons behind

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Garbiñe Muguruza: "En Venezuela no hay jugadoras, por tanto sería más protagonista, tendría más atención, me mimarían mucho...".

la verdad es q no tiene sentido lo q ha dicho...tener mas atencion ? mimarle ?

venezuela es un pais q esta en una honda crisi economica...no tienen ni dinero para importar papiel igenico :/ q puede ofrecirle el Venezuela ? tambien a nivel de federacion, de sponsor, de imagen...nada

yo puedo estar de acuerdo con ella si ella se siente venezuelana y kiere jugar por su pais...entonces vale...pero no hay otros reales motivos...y no creo que la federacion venezuelana le ofrezca dinero...
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Old Mar 3rd, 2014, 05:46 PM   #304
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Y si hablamos de arraigo ... se vino con 5 años a España, no? Ahora tiene 20 años ... no sé, creo que se debería sentir más Española que Venezolana, pero vamos que si quiere mimitos nosotros se los damos XD
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la verdad es q no tiene sentido lo q ha dicho...tener mas atencion ? mimarle ?

venezuela es un pais q esta en una honda crisi economica...no tienen ni dinero para importar papiel igenico :/ q puede ofrecirle el Venezuela ? tambien a nivel de federacion, de sponsor, de imagen...nada

yo puedo estar de acuerdo con ella si ella se siente venezuelana y kiere jugar por su pais...entonces vale...pero no hay otros reales motivos...y no creo que la federacion venezuelana le ofrezca dinero...
Lo de las importaciones tiene más que ver con la política cambiaria , el cadivi o cómo se llame, que con la falta de dinero.
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Old Mar 4th, 2014, 01:27 PM   #306
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Vale ... pues Carla y Garbiñe reciben WC para Madrid y empezaran a jugar juntas este año, será para preparar los JJ.OO? jajajaja ni idea.
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Vale ... pues Carla y Garbiñe reciben WC para Madrid y empezaran a jugar juntas este año, será para preparar los JJ.OO? jajajaja ni idea.
no creo!!

Seguramente jueguen juntas porque Garbi, Carla y Burnett suelen entrenar bastante juntas
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Van a jugar todo el año, a ver qué tal se les da ...
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venezuela es un pais q esta en una honda crisi economica...no tienen ni dinero para importar papiel igenico :/ q puede ofrecirle el Venezuela ? tambien a nivel de federacion, de sponsor, de imagen...nada
Falso, Venezuela es uno de los países mas ricos del continente, lo del papel higienico es un problema de sus gobernantes cretinos y de su absurdo comunismo que hace que no sean capaces de importar papel higienico con la bola de dólares que se meten a diario por sus exportaciones petroleras.

El caso de esta tenista lo desconozco pero no me extrañaría que el régimen comunista de Venezuela quiera usarla como propaganda como hacen todos estos países comunistas con sus deportistas de élite, así que seguro le pagaran muy bien.

En el caso de Venezuela hay dos claros ejemplos de esto

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Gustavo Dudamel, que no es deportista, es un afamado director de orquesta (para mi gusto el mejor del momento) que además se pluriemplea en USA y Alemania siendo uno de los directores mejor pagados del mundo.

A lo mejor Garbiñe Muguruza se marcha a representar a Venezuela lo cual es una gran pérdida para el tenis español porque esta tenista va para top 10

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Falso, Venezuela es uno de los países mas ricos del continente, lo del papel higienico es un problema de sus gobernantes cretinos y de su absurdo comunismo que hace que no sean capaces de importar papel higienico con la bola de dólares que se meten a diario por sus exportaciones petroleras.

El caso de esta tenista lo desconozco pero no me extrañaría que el régimen comunista de Venezuela quiera usarla como propaganda como hacen todos estos países comunistas con sus deportistas de élite, así que seguro le pagaran muy bien.

En el caso de Venezuela hay dos claros ejemplos de esto

Pastor Maldonado, piloto de fórmula 1
Gustavo Dudamel, que no es deportista, es un afamado director de orquesta (para mi gusto el mejor del momento) que además se pluriemplea en USA y Alemania siendo uno de los directores mejor pagados del mundo.

A lo mejor Garbiñe Muguruza se marcha a representar a Venezuela lo cual es una gran pérdida para el tenis español porque esta tenista va para top 10

Venezuela es un país riquísimo en recursos naturales, pero también lo son unos cuantos países africanos. La corrupción es rampante, y los gobiernos se preocupan más de medidas populistas que de atajar los problemas.
El que un gobierno quiera utilizarte como publicidad tiene su lógica, otra cosa es que tú decidas dejarles hacerlo. Estamos hablando de tenis, donde Navratilova siguió ganando títulos como apátrida. Si hay un deporte donde puedes prescindir de casi todo el mundo ese es el tenis.

Ella tiene raíces en Venezuela, nació allí y tiene todo el derecho del mundo a jugar por Venezuela. Eso no quita para que haya multitud de razones para criticarla en caso de que decida hacerlo. Gente en su misma situación tomó la determinación de jugar por un país u otro siendo juniors (generalmente bastante antes de los 18). Ella ha esperado demasiado, como para que haga lo que haga no levante ampollas.
Le van a caer gorrazos por todos lados y no me da ninguna pena, porque ella misma ha propiciado que suceda

Y dicho esto yo no tengo nada claro que Garbi vaya a ser una futura top 10. Potencial tiene para ello (incluso para aspirar a los grandes títulos) pero también tiene una serie de cualidades que no son muy positivas si se quiere llegar arriba, y la mayoría de jugadoras de sus características son incapaces de corregirlas. Ya veremos.
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Totalmente de acuerdo contigo jj74
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I would like her to play for Venezuela, but seriously, what does change for her fans? Nothing
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I would like her to play for Venezuela, but seriously, what does change for her fans? Nothing
For her spanish fans sure it changes a lot
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Yo dejaré de ser su fan, eso está más que claro. Yo soy muy español muy patriótico.
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Falso, Venezuela es uno de los países mas ricos del continente,
kien dijo el contrario ? yo no dije que Venezuela es un pais pobre...si lees bien dije solo que hay una enorme crisi economica y a causa de esa crisi no tienen dinero para importar nada ( lo del papiel igenico era solo un ejemplo...y como tu dijiste el problema es la dictatura comunista...ha transformado el pais mas rico del sur america en un pais esclavo de Iran y China...se ha kedado en unos de los paises mas violentos y peligrosos del mundo, etc...

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El caso de esta tenista lo desconozco pero no me extrañaría que el régimen comunista de Venezuela quiera usarla como propaganda como hacen todos estos países comunistas con sus deportistas de élite, así que seguro le pagaran muy bien.
oh, no habia pensado en eso...espero solo q Garbiñe no se haga manejar para hacer propaganda al regimen

volviendo a hablar de tennis...

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Y dicho esto yo no tengo nada claro que Garbi vaya a ser una futura top 10.
para mi va ser top 10 no veo como eso no pueda pasar...sabe jugar muy bien a tennis y tiene un estilo de tennis que la hara ganar realmente mucho...

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For her spanish fans sure it changes a lot
this is normal...we ( in Italy ) had a similar situation with Giorgi ( both her parents are Argentinan ) her father wanted her to play for Argentina, but she was born in Italy and she does feel Italian and she decided to play for Italy in fed cup...but i will write the same thing i wrote about Giorgis situation...it doesnt matter the flag...if i like a player i support him anyway...
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