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Old Aug 18th, 2013, 07:45 AM   #121
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Do those chicks always do that because this has only made the Spanish media? Or do the Anglo-phone media just want to focus on Russians who hate gays and not others.
i saw nick symmonds retwitted the pic of the kiss
give it some hours and it will be on another countries also
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Old Aug 18th, 2013, 07:47 AM   #122
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

However when you suggest something as ignorant as she did, you deserve to be criticised for it.

She should be hounded out of athletics and be made to film lesbian porno's for the rest of her life.
this

i mean, she can have that opinion, but we shouldnt have her as youth olympics ambassador. she will teach the children how to be standard normal homophobic children or what?
not the person i would like to have as a role model for the children with what she said....
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Old Aug 18th, 2013, 07:55 AM   #123
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Ok, ok, agree on that one.
But... I just wonder what impact has such actions like the one done by Swedish high-jumpers, statement coming from Symmonds, boycotting russian vodka, on daily life of russian gays?
Do you really think that expressing the nice and kind words of solidarity with them is the way to help them?
Do you think that those actions made by worldwide would make their lives better? Because I don't think so, things can get even worse for them, because they will be blamed for that.
When they wanted to legalise same-sex partnerships in Poland, you can heard unusual ammount of hating comments everywhere - coming from politicians, priests, actors, usual people who are commenting articles in the internet. I have never heard that many bad things in my life, I have heard in one week.
Eastern Europe is pretty much different than Western - communism did its job, and there are only some exceptions like the Czech Republic which is the most open minded country in that region.
So to me all those actions are nice, but they don't cause any improvement, and I am really starting to think, that the best solution is inviting Russians under our own roofs.
i think being against this law and boycot of russian vodka, yeah it helps life of russian gays. the only way to help them is remove this law. and these are ways to try to do the russian reconsider this!!!!
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Old Aug 18th, 2013, 12:17 PM   #124
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I can still care about human rights when it happens. So what's your point here?
My point is that the fact gay people can't marry in Russia is not the most important problem of the modern world. Reading some comments indicating otherwise in this thread hardly makes my day plus all those experts telling what Isinbayeva should or shouldn't be talking about
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Old Aug 18th, 2013, 01:11 PM   #125
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Re: Nick Symmonds, silver medallist in 800m, dedicates medal to gay people

the fact is not they cant marry but they can even walk on the street...
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Wow Congrats to those girls. Now that is a statement.
Why are people so sure this was a statement?
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Old Aug 18th, 2013, 01:36 PM   #127
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the fact is not they cant marry but they can even walk on the street...
Since the topic is pretty much settled, there's nothing that anyone can do about it anyway. Why bother?
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Re: Nick Symmonds, silver medallist in 800m, dedicates medal to gay people

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My point is that the fact gay people can't marry in Russia is not the most important problem of the modern world. Reading some comments indicating otherwise in this thread hardly makes my day plus all those experts telling what Isinbayeva should or shouldn't be talking about
In effect you are saying no issue is worth discussing as there will always be bigger problems in the world.

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No, there's no bigger problem in the world than war & famine
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Monzanator, your contributions to debates on homosexuality are always mind-numbingly stupid. I actually feel braincells dying when I read your posts. You are the Goldenlox of gay rights debates.
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Yeah a few more media outlets are reporting the kiss now, also people saying it may have meant nothing, just because they girls don't give a press conference doesn't mean it isn't a statement. I think it would be very coincidental for this to occur a when all this LGBT drama is going down don't you???

Having high profile Russians support this is way more productive that Westerners pontificating.
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No, there's no bigger problem in the world than war & famine
Agreed. Now, instead of trolling on the Internet, why don't you go solve these problems? Go. Solve. We'll wait.
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Since the topic is pretty much settled, there's nothing that anyone can do about it anyway. Why bother?
so what? it was the same with black people´s rights, women´s rights, and many other similar issues which were so settled also. if nobody fights, and cares, things will just remain the same
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Yeah a few more media outlets are reporting the kiss now, also people saying it may have meant nothing, just because they girls don't give a press conference doesn't mean it isn't a statement. I think it would be very coincidental for this to occur a when all this LGBT drama is going down don't you???

Having high profile Russians support this is way more productive that Westerners pontificating.
yeah, it's on yahoo homepage now and i agree. this was way more powerful than anything symmonds or any swedes could have said or done.
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No, there's no bigger problem in the world than war & famine
so, we shouldnt care about anything else than that, right?
or maybe we shouldnt care about war and famine because they are "pretty much settled" as you said?
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