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Old Aug 10th, 2013, 08:08 PM   #1306
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Re: According to ESPN journalist, Sharapova and Dimitrov are dating

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Sorry, but simply comparing USA with Russia's politics is ridiculous. No country is perfect, but USA is a democracy and Russia is a fake one (sorry, but no real democracy vote on such controversial issue and get and unanimous vote).
Well, you can see democracy as the optimum, but that does not mean, US of A has different views on the same topic as Russia. In fact, they share the same view on a lot of things and topics. Obama spent over billions of american US-dollars to get into Capitol Hill and the White House....

Similar money is spent in russia.

The only difference is, that Moscow is the centre while in America, each state can have their own crazy law...

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Mixing sports with politics is not a good idea
That is what the olympic spirit is (officially) about... And that is why I was asking @tennisbum79, why he was so interested in Sharapova's opinion in particular.


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In 1936 there was no boycott. A black man was running and winning in front of Adolf Hitler...

Only politicians can make a judgement as in 1964 with South Africa, and not a single athlete. Russia is a power house. They have power, they have money, they have leverage, formula one, athletics grand prix meetings and world championships, FIFA, etc.

But an athlete cannot make a change. Of course, a single one can say, 'I don't go there', but others will participate.
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Old Aug 10th, 2013, 09:03 PM   #1307
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Why is Sharapova's opinion important to you? Why not Svetlana Kuznetsova for instance or (Serena Williams)?

Were chinese athletes asked about politics in their country before the 2008 Olympics?

Overall, why should athletes make public statements about (politics and/or) gay marriage? Were american athletes asked about gay marriage in the US of A recently? About the "American Family Association" in the US of A, who fears gay marriage the same way as pedophilia and sodomy?

Had american atheletes/tennis players made any statements about civil rights and liberties in the US of A, domestic and international surveillance by the NSA?

Like all of these happen or happened.
You can argue the validity of having athletes as spokespeople and role models for communities, but you can't deny that it doesn't happen. People like and listen to athletes and trust them even on issues outside their expertise.
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Re: According to ESPN journalist, Sharapova and Dimitrov are dating

so Grigor likes women with mustache?

interesting
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Like all of these happen or happened.
You can argue the validity of having athletes as spokespeople and role models for communities, but you can't deny that it doesn't happen. People like and listen to athletes and trust them even on issues outside their expertise.
People listen you say, yes. But it has nothing to do with athletes.

That is why I don't expect an answer by @tennisbum79, because he seems to be a little, not very intelligent troll.


I mean, in Iran there is no Burger King or McDonald's or olympia. Should politicians now send @tennisbum79 to investigate why?
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Old Aug 10th, 2013, 09:22 PM   #1310
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People listen you say, yes. But it has nothing to do with athletes.

That is why I don't expect an answer by @tennisbum79, because he seems to be a little, not very intelligent troll.


I mean, in Iran there is no Burger King or McDonald's or olympia. Should politician now send @tennisbum79 to investigate why?
It has everything to do with athletes. A big thing with the recent Biogenesis and MLB steroids controversy was how the players perpetuate a culture of steroid-use because they don't realize their impact on upcoming athletes and the public.

Li Na is constantly challenging the Chinese media and public of their portrayal. And the very public spat and split between a few Chinese players and the Chinese tennis system says leaps and bounds about their feelings of the policies.

Athletes have been called again and again to comment on gay marriage. Athlete Ally is a very public movement, and include tennis players like Rennae Stubbs, Andy Roddick, and Mardy Fish. The week of the superbowl in the US there was a lot of discussion of athletes supporting gay marriage and reporters were not barred from asking those questions.

The Jason Collins story being front page news for Sports Illustrated?

Athletes in this age, especially with twitter, are expected to comment semi-intelligently on the issues of the day. They have a huge influence, even more than politicians and civil servants, on how the public responds. Homosexuality wasn't part of that dicussion in the US for a while, but it is increasingly becoming one. And I hope Maria does what she thinks is right, and not whats best for her brand.
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Li Na is constantly challenging the Chinese media and public of their portrayal.
Oh dear... HHAHAHAZHAH Did you get that from foxnews?

Li Na is living in China. They don't let her in, if she was supporting the US-FOX-NEWS-Media-China-is-so-bad! LOL

I'M WITH STUPID-US-AMERICANS-T-Shirt...
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Ana Ivanovic on Grigor Dimitrov:

"For me, Dimitrov is the most attractive man on tour. He is an amazing talent and I expect him to break in the Top 10 soon. I was happy when I found out that Dimitrov and Sharapova are together. They both deserve each other and they are a good match."
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It has everything to do with athletes. A big thing with the recent Biogenesis and MLB steroids controversy was how the players perpetuate a culture of steroid-use because they don't realize their impact on upcoming athletes and the public.

Li Na is constantly challenging the Chinese media and public of their portrayal. And the very public spat and split between a few Chinese players and the Chinese tennis system says leaps and bounds about their feelings of the policies.

Athletes have been called again and again to comment on gay marriage. Athlete Ally is a very public movement, and include tennis players like Rennae Stubbs, Andy Roddick, and Mardy Fish. The week of the superbowl in the US there was a lot of discussion of athletes supporting gay marriage and reporters were not barred from asking those questions.

The Jason Collins story being front page news for Sports Illustrated?

Athletes in this age, especially with twitter, are expected to comment semi-intelligently on the issues of the day. They have a huge influence, even more than politicians and civil servants, on how the public responds. Homosexuality wasn't part of that dicussion in the US for a while, but it is increasingly becoming one. And I hope Maria does what she thinks is right, and not whats best for her brand.
Anthony having an intelligent conversation with him is not going to happen he's just here to get attention
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Re: According to ESPN journalist, Sharapova and Dimitrov are dating

It's beyond my understanding how some people can discuss about some people's relationships for months.
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so Grigor likes women with mustache?

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Anthony having an intelligent conversation with him is not going to happen he's just here to get attention
Yes, Anthony. Don't make your own choice. Listen to people like @tennisbum79 or @MarilynRose
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Regardless of that, this is just stupid. Just like the whole fuss about the royal baby. It's like people don't have their own personal lives to think about. Yes, I'm glad that Masha and Grigor are happy, I'm glad that Kate gave a birth to a child, I'm glad that Kanye and Kim are buying/wearing this or that, but enough is enough.
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Ana Ivanovic on Grigor Dimitrov:

"For me, Dimitrov is the most attractive man on tour. He is an amazing talent and I expect him to break in the Top 10 soon. I was happy when I found out that Dimitrov and Sharapova are together. They both deserve each other and they are a good match."
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You already got your answer, Maria wasn't asked so far (AFAIK). Now I would like to know, why Maria's opinion about russian law is so important to you in the first place.
She carried the Russian flag at the last Olympic games.
She lives in the USA, where this sort of thing is not tolerated.
Also, I believe she has friends who are gay or lesbian.


And as I clearly stated, other players, Russians or not, will be asked this question.
You seem to be acting as if Maria is being persecuted.
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