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Old May 15th, 2013, 08:03 AM   #91
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Re: TENNIS TIPPING #20c|Saint-Gaudens -- Send for Wednesday!!

Differences




charmedRic vs. Felipe Abe
No pick from charmedRic

winnermax vs. Soliloque(4)
Panova, Pavlovic, vs Feuerstein, Solovyeva,
Panova 2-1, Pavlovic 2-0, Pfizenmaier 2-1, vs Feuerstein 2-0, Solovyeva 2-1, Pfizenmaier 2-0,

max94 vs. tildeloltilde(Alt)
vs
Pavlovic 2-0, Hercog 2-1, vs Pavlovic 2-1, Hercog 2-0,

rnwerner vs. Andiyan
Pavlovic, vs Solovyeva,
Feuerstein 2-1, Pavlovic 2-1, vs Feuerstein 2-0, Solovyeva 2-0,


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flareon/longtin23(1) vs. Gu-niao/Hapsara
Feuerstein, Pavlovic, vs Panova, Solovyeva,
Feuerstein2-0, Feuerstein2-0, Pavlovic2-1, Pfizenmaier2-0, vs Feuerstein2-1, Panova2-1, Solovyeva2-0, Pfizenmaier2-*,

catgamer/goOudinUSA vs. DiRenan/Felipe Abe(4)
Feuerstein, Solovyeva, Friedsam, vs Panova, Pavlovic, Hercog,
Feuerstein2-0, Solovyeva2-0, Friedsam2-1, vs Panova2-1, Pavlovic2-1, Hercog2-1,

charmedRic/Soliloque(3) vs. Andiyan/iPatty
No pick from charmedRic

igralec33/Sander. vs. Kirilenko-Fan/mcb(2)
Pavlovic ,Pavlovic, vs Solovyeva ,Solovyeva,
Pavlovic2-0, Pavlovic2-0, vs Solovyeva2-1, Solovyeva2-1,
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Old May 15th, 2013, 08:29 AM   #92
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Re: TENNIS TIPPING #20c|Saint-Gaudens -- Send for Wednesday!!

Pickstats

Code:
Feuerstein___________________5      Panova_______________________2
Solovyeva____________________3      Pavlovic_____________________4
Hercog_______________________7      Friedsam_____________________0
Pfizenmaier__________________7      Kalabina_____________________0

Code:
Feuerstein__________________13      Panova_______________________2
Solovyeva____________________9      Pavlovic_____________________6
Hercog______________________14      Friedsam_____________________1
Pfizenmaier_________________15      Kalabina_____________________0
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Old May 15th, 2013, 10:07 AM   #93
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Re: TENNIS TIPPING #20c|Saint-Gaudens -- Send for Wednesday!!

This sucks. I guess I cannot count Ricos 11:30 pick, but I check with the board.
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meanie!

I got stuck at work until 10PM and didn't get home till so late I thought I could wake up early and get my picks in .... apparently I SUCK at calculating time zone differences.
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Old May 15th, 2013, 11:32 AM   #96
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"However, all picks which are sent between "manager's deadline" and real start of play have to be counted."
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^^ That is what I checked with the Board already. The real start of the play was 10 AM, the revised OOP is just because of the rain delay. I cannot count charmedRics pick. Sorry.
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Then the board needs to add "real start of play according to the OOP" in the rules cause it's not what it's said
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Then the board needs to add "real start of play according to the OOP" in the rules cause it's not what it's said
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Deadline for Picks: The deadline for accepting picks is the time at which the matches are scheduled to start. NO PICKS will be accepted if they are sent after that point. Managers are allowed to make the deadline earlier if they are not able to post the differences at the time when the play starts. However, all picks which are sent between "manager's deadline" and real start of play have to be counted. When the differences are posted, you can't change your picks anymore.


Matches were scheduled to start at 10:00, they just modified it to 16:00 due to rain.
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Deadline for Picks: The deadline for accepting picks is the time at which the matches are scheduled to start. NO PICKS will be accepted if they are sent after that point. Managers are allowed to make the deadline earlier if they are not able to post the differences at the time when the play starts. However, all picks which are sent between "manager's deadline" and real start of play have to be counted. When the differences are posted, you can't change your picks anymore.


Matches were scheduled to start at 10:00, they just modified it to 16:00 due to rain.
I'm not discussing the decision, I'm OK with it. I'm just suggesting that the rules should be edited cause my sentence is a bit after the sentence in red and says "real start of play" which is not the same thing as in the sentence in red.
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I'm not discussing the decision, I'm OK with it. I'm just suggesting that the rules should be edited cause my sentence is a bit after the sentence in red and says "real start of play" which is not the same thing as in the sentence in red.
is very, very, very, difficult for manager make this. Case of happens a rain delay along 5 hours, the manager will need see all matches all time for know when matches started?

it's impossible. In tournaments ITF, it's more impossible
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I'm not discussing the decision, I'm OK with it. I'm just suggesting that the rules should be edited cause my sentence is a bit after the sentence in red and says "real start of play" which is not the same thing as in the sentence in red.
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is very, very, very, difficult for manager make this. Case of happens a rain delay along 5 hours, the manager will need see all matches all time for know when matches started?
It used to be like that. And it was one of the reasons why the rule was changed.
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"However, all picks which are sent between "manager's deadline" and real start of play have to be counted."
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I'm not discussing the decision, I'm OK with it. I'm just suggesting that the rules should be edited cause my sentence is a bit after the sentence in red and says "real start of play" which is not the same thing as in the sentence in red.
I agree that it's not the same and it should be changed but ["However, all picks which are sent between "manager's deadline" and real start of play have to be counted."] is also not what happened here. Because as far as I know, there was no "manager's deadline" here. "Manager's deadline" means that the manager set a deadline different to the scheduled start of play.
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I'm not discussing the decision, I'm OK with it. I'm just suggesting that the rules should be edited cause my sentence is a bit after the sentence in red and says "real start of play" which is not the same thing as in the sentence in red.
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I agree that it's not the same and it should be changed but ["However, all picks which are sent between "manager's deadline" and real start of play have to be counted."] is also not what happened here. Because as far as I know, there was no "manager's deadline" here. "Manager's deadline" means that the manager set a deadline different to the scheduled start of play.
i'm sorry that this rule isn't being understood. the rule is correct, and imo the way it is written is also correct. the bit Soliloque highlighted isn't meant to be taken on its own, but in conjunction with the previous sentence:

"Managers are allowed to make the deadline earlier if they are not able to post the differences at the time when the play starts. However, all picks which are sent between "manager's deadline" and real start of play have to be counted."

in other words, where the manager sets an early deadline because that is the time that suits him to put diffs up (eg 8am deadline when play starts at 10am), he is able to do that and put diffs up at that time. However, where someone sends picks at 9am, these picks must be counted as the manager is not allowed to ENFORCE a deadline which takes place before play is due to start.

in this specific case, valac didn't set an early deadline, he just informed players when play was due to start and the rain prevented this. that means that the deadline was at the time valac indicated, and any picks received after this are invalid.
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