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Old May 2nd, 2013, 01:00 PM   #46
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Well, let's put it this way. When I was in Los Angeles and Magic was living in Fox Hills when he first got to the Lakers, there were rumors that he had often been at gay parties that included some other big names including a former heavyweight champion (Not Ali). Was it true? Who knows? But the people I heard it from were not in the habit of just making up lies on people.

I also remember when Magic announced that he had HIV, there was a sports writer (I can't remember who) who was interviewed on KNBC in Los Angeles and he was asked that question. I'll never forget his response. He said, "Well you hear things, but....." And then he kind of avoided the subject. Does that mean anything? Who knows?
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That's not virtually impossible then, is it.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 01:12 PM   #48
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That's not virtually impossible then, is it.
i guess not, but even if you had unprotected sex with 100 hiv-positive women, you would only have ~5% chance to get it
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Well, let's put it this way. When I was in Los Angeles and Magic was living in Fox Hills when he first got to the Lakers, there were rumors that he had often been at gay parties that included some other big names including a former heavyweight champion (Not Ali). Was it true? Who knows? But the people I heard it from were not in the habit of just making up lies on people.

I also remember when Magic announced that he had HIV, there was a sports writer (I can't remember who) who was interviewed on KNBC in Los Angeles and he was asked that question. I'll never forget his response. He said, "Well you hear things, but....." And then he kind of avoided the subject. Does that mean anything? Who knows?
That former heavyweight champion wouldn't happen to be Sugar Ray Leonard would it?? I ask because I have heard the same about him as well.
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That former heavyweight champion wouldn't happen to be Sugar Ray Leonard would it?? I ask because I have heard the same about him as well.
he's not heavyweight
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Well, let's put it this way. When I was in Los Angeles and Magic was living in Fox Hills when he first got to the Lakers, there were rumors that he had often been at gay parties that included some other big names including a former heavyweight champion (Not Ali). Was it true? Who knows? But the people I heard it from were not in the habit of just making up lies on people.

I also remember when Magic announced that he had HIV, there was a sports writer (I can't remember who) who was interviewed on KNBC in Los Angeles and he was asked that question. I'll never forget his response. He said, "Well you hear things, but....." And then he kind of avoided the subject. Does that mean anything? Who knows?
Yeah, I lived in Ladera Heights at the time, and there were serious comments on him being omnisexual -- just couldn't stop trying to get it from anyone, a friend was offended at being hit on in a bar about a month after the news -- and yes, we heard him give a vague answer to that question. But his rumors weren't as strong and sustained as Richard Gere, Tom Cruise, John Travolta and even Will Smith, so he might have dabbled a touch during a spell, when he got bored of all the women that couldn't satisfy that smiling appetite.
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Re: Why NBA center Jason Collins is coming out now

Here's a very arch article that explains why what Navratilova said about Jason Collins's coming out and its importance to all of us is being criticized by the usual suspects, mainly because they don't want her to be right.

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"Politifact: Why Is Martina Navratilova Lying By Saying All These True Things?"
So you probably heard about Jason Collins, the sportsball man who said he was gay last week? And almost everyone said, Oh, that’s nice, sure, except for the usual crowd of jerks? And of course we all know that Collins was not really the first gay sportsball man, or even the first gay sportsballer or anything, because that person’s identity is Lost in the Mists of History. But anyway, one of the first sportsball people to be openly gay, the awesome hulking Slavic lesbianista Martina Navratilova, made the rounds of the news programs to talk about the social significance of Collins’s being out, and on CBS’s Face the Nation said this:

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“We still don’t have equal rights. I have been getting [questions] on Twitter, ‘Why does this matter? I don’t care.’ Which is kind of code for, ‘I really don’t want to know.’ But it does matter because in 29 states in this country you can still get fired for not just being gay but if your employer thinks you are gay.”
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Well, let's put it this way. When I was in Los Angeles and Magic was living in Fox Hills when he first got to the Lakers, there were rumors that he had often been at gay parties that included some other big names including a former heavyweight champion (Not Ali). Was it true? Who knows? But the people I heard it from were not in the habit of just making up lies on people.

I also remember when Magic announced that he had HIV, there was a sports writer (I can't remember who) who was interviewed on KNBC in Los Angeles and he was asked that question. I'll never forget his response. He said, "Well you hear things, but....." And then he kind of avoided the subject. Does that mean anything? Who knows?
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Not Mike Tyson...
No not MT even though he susposedly wasn't averse to running up in boy pum pum from time to time.

For the cognoscenti, this boxer had a son who played pro football and was estranged from his dad for a long time after he found out that his dad liked to "catch" .

I think that the two of them are OK now.
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No not MT even though he susposedly wasn't averse to running up in boy pum pum from time to time.

For the cognoscenti, this boxer had a son who played pro football and was estranged from his dad for a long time after he found out that his dad liked to "catch" .

I think that the two of them are OK now.
OMG, Ken Norton.

BTW, he was only technically Champ, as his (15 round, title fight length then) decision ova Jimmy Young was deemed to have been a title fight because "the powers that be" said the Ali - (Leon) Spinks rematch violated a then rule forbidding such b2b title bouts. Norton lost his first "defense" in a decision vs. Larry Holmes.

Ken, Jr. is the answer to a great NFL trivia question, BTW.
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OMG, Ken Norton.

BTW, he was only technically Champ, as his (15 round, title fight length then) decision ova Jimmy Young was deemed to have been a title fight because "the powers that be" said the Ali - (Leon) Spinks rematch violated a then rule forbidding such b2b title bouts. Norton lost his first "defense" in a decision vs. Larry Holmes.

Ken, Jr. is the answer to a great NFL trivia question, BTW.
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What was the name of Ike Turner's group preceding Ike and Tina Turner?

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