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Old Mar 22nd, 2013, 01:20 AM   #1
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Scotland voted against independence (18th of September 2014)

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Old Mar 22nd, 2013, 01:23 AM   #2
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Re: Scotland to vote of Independence next year (18.9.14)

• Independence questions confirmed as “Should Scotland be an independent country? Yes/No”

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...r-18-1-2849108
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Re: Scotland to vote of Independence next year (18.9.14)

Salmond's smart, it'd be a whitewash if he held it anytime soon!

He's bought his party another year and a half of existence.
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Re: Scotland to vote of Independence next year (18.9.14)

Probably only gonna make one post in this thread cause I don't need my blood pressure rising so.....



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Re: Scotland to vote of Independence next year (18.9.14)

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Agreed, even if the Halardlover thinks I only care about Catholic populations the Englishmen conquered. Sean Connery should promise to return (with his money) if they separate; and Mel Gibson should donate @ most of what he made off of Braveheart to the Yes campaign.
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Agreed, even if the Halardlover thinks I only care about Catholic populations the Englishmen conquered. Sean Connery should promise to return (with his money) if they separate; and Mel Gibson should donate @ most of what he made off of Braveheart to the Yes campaign.
England never conquered Scotland.
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Sean Connery should promise to return (with his money) if they separate; and Mel Gibson should donate @ most of what he made off of Braveheart to the Yes campaign.
AFAIK Connery has said he will never return to those split states. Only to Independent Scotland!
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Re: Scotland to vote of Independence next year (18.9.14)

Polls continue to shows a steady, large majority will vote No...hardly seems to be a picture of the Scots clamouring to be free of English tyranny!

It's reasonable that the Scots get to choose their future,but such an important vote should be a once a generation thing, to have a new vote every 5 years will create too much uncertainty and make it hard for any government to plan for the future.
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Agreed, even if the Halardlover thinks I only care about Catholic populations the Englishmen conquered. Sean Connery should promise to return (with his money) if they separate; and Mel Gibson should donate @ most of what he made off of Braveheart to the Yes campaign.
The Scots are at least as to blame for the mess of Northern Ireland as the English...where do you think a lot of those fire breathing Northern Irish Protestants came from in the first place?

We wouldn't agree even about Wallace, hero to many Scots, but a butcher in Northern England. But Im sure Mel Gibson is a trustworthy source of opinion.
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Re: Scotland to vote of Independence next year (18.9.14)

The ignorance of the history of England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales would be hilarious if such people didn't then spout out twaddle and base political opinions on it.
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Come on!

You do realise that it will only happen if the people of Scotland want it - and the chances of them voting for it are extremely slim!
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Agreed, even if the Halardlover thinks I only care about Catholic populations the Englishmen conquered. Sean Connery should promise to return (with his money) if they separate; and Mel Gibson should donate @ most of what he made off of Braveheart to the Yes campaign.
Scotland and England are already separate countries. Scotland has it's own education and health and care systems and own parliament and own taxation.

Sean Connery will never return - do you believe he will pay taxes in Scotland (already higher than taxes in England) when he has been a tax exile for decades?! He is a hypocrite and has only been to Scotland once in 20 years! For a day! Scottish taxes will have to be even higher if they get independence. I can't wait to see Mr Connery return to that!

Andy Murray (who bleats on about Scotland) also lives in England and never returns to Dunblane, along with hundreds of thousands of other Scots!

I also live in England though my parents are Scots and I was born in Forres. My grandparents were Scots and before that Scots and Irish. I have no desire whatsoever to return to Scotland, and neither do most Scots who leave it - though some cling on to a romanticised, misty eyed vision of Scotland and will bang on about it when pissed. They never go back though

The whole separation issue is fuelled by ignorance, which foreigners (in particular Americans) who cling to romantic idiocies such as Hollywood versions of Scottish and Irish history such as Brigadoon, Braveheart, and sundry Irish versions such as Finians Rainbow, view through very rose tinted specs!
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AFAIK Connery has said he will never return to those split states. Only to Independent Scotland!
He will never return. He is a tax dodger - who currently has a lame excuse!
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Re: Scotland to vote of Independence next year (18.9.14)

Comments at an event a few years back by Alicia Keys hint at the problem, Keys who apparently has some Scottish ancestry, exclaimed...

"Never stop fighting for your freedom Scotland!"

That kind of comment makes me wince...

Bearing in mind they want to keep the Queen, want to keep the pound, it's hard to see what this Independence would amount to. More semi detached than independent.

Worth noting again that the notion of an independent Scotland has perhaps more support in England than it does in Scotland!
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