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Old Mar 16th, 2013, 08:19 AM   #511
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Then why is there so much violent crime in the UK?
Hey Williamsser, why is this quote of yours no longer present via the link? Did you delete it, or is admin responsible? Either way, is your question any different than Pureracket's asking you to expound on one of your posts, which you accused him of "playing games" for doing so?
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Old Mar 16th, 2013, 03:14 PM   #512
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People have been killed or maimed in my very own hometown by drunk people raging out of control with knives or bare fists, so very nice of you to tell me that can't happen.
A knife is a weapon. And fists can be considered weapons. Even so - of course people can kill without guns. That doesn't change the fact that modern guns are one of the easiest weapons to kill with.
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A knife is a weapon. And fists can be considered weapons. Even so - of course people can kill without guns. That doesn't change the fact that modern guns are one of the easiest weapons to kill with.
I guess there's no need to worry about me as my guns are 60+ year old designs...
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I guess there's no need to worry about me as my guns are 60+ year old designs...
are you playing thick on purpose? I mean if you can't realize that a gun (whatever its age is) will kill someone much more easily than any other weapon that a civil can own, something is very wrong with you. Nobody's saying that a knife or a fist can't kill, simply that any type of gun and even more assault weapon are more likely to kill and they can kill more than one person quickly. Also you can mistakenly shoot someone with a gun by accident but it's pretty hard to stab someone in the throat by accident.
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..STERLING, Va. (AP) — A Virginia couple says their teenage son was fatally shot when he mistakenly entered a neighbor's home after a night of drinking.

Shawn and Jennea Gordley remembered their 16-year-old son Caleb on Tuesday as a lover of music and sports. Both parents say they forgive the person who shot their son and do not blame that individual for what happened.

Police say Caleb was fatally shot early Sunday after entering a neighbor's home through a back window.

Shawn Gordley says his son snuck out of the house Saturday night and went drinking with friends. They walked home from the party. Caleb went in through a back window, mistaking the neighbor's house for his own. Caleb had lived in his home for less than a year, and the houses look similar.
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2nd Amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That the gun-nutters and their powerful lobby get away with interpreting this as they do surprises me.

First - in 1789 the most common meaning of infringe was "to break" or overturn. So to apply the common meaning we currently have for the word is incorrect.

Second - it seems clear to me given the wording and historical events that the point "State" means the USA and that a militia then was considered necessary for its defense.

Third - "well regulated" Some gun-nutters who tout this amendment seem to think that those words are just there as filler. As they also seem to ignore that it says militia - singular. To think that it advocates regulation of the militia but means that firearms should not be regulated is convoluted to an unfathomable degree.


Fourth - if one is going to read the amendment with a modern meaning of "infringe" then one can only conclude that there should be no laws at all around gun ownership. It should be much like buying a pair of shoes.

Overall it seems clear that the writers wanted Americans then to have and be familiar with using firearms so that they could be counted on if needed to fight for the country. There is nothing in the amendment that countermands regulating what kinds of firearms can be owned and what procedures surround ownership.
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Mother of baby murdered right in front of her tells Piers Morgan: 'I just hope the shooter dies'

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz2OfK8LS9p

A grieving Georgia mother who saw her 13-month-old son murdered right in front of her says the heartless teen killer must die as well.

Little Antonio Santiago, who had yet to say his first words, was shot in the face in his stroller on Thursday as mother and toddler took a walk in Brunswick, Ga.

De’Marquise Elkins, 17, and 15-year-old Dominique Lang have been charged as adults with first-degree murder. Antonio's mother Sherry West, who was wounded during the botched robbery, identified Elkins as the shooter.

The state of Georgia does have the death penalty.

"I just hope the shooter dies," West told CNN's Piers Morgan on Monday night. "I had to watch my baby die, and I want him to die. A life for a life."
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1 Dead, 10 Wounded In Weekend Gun Violence in Chicago

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/03/...-friday-night/

One man is dead and at least another ten were wounded from acts of gun violence this weekend in areas throughout the city, from the South and Southwest side to Humboldt Park to Rogers Park.

The weekend’s sole homicide occurred Saturday about 9:47 a.m. in the 7800 block of South Muskegon Avenue, according to police News Affairs Officer Veejay Zala.

Antonio Grey, 26, suffered a gunshot wound to the chest and was taken to Northwestern Memorial Hospital, where he later died, authorities said. Grey, of the 8100 block of South Muskegon Avenue, was shot to death blocks from his home.

The most recent shooting of the weekend happened about 1 p.m. Sunday, when a 14-year-old boy was shot in the buttocks in the 2100 block of West 37th Street, police said. The boy was taken in good condition to Mount Sinai Hospital.

About 3:51 a.m. Sunday, a 30-year-old man was shot in the forehead in the 7100 block of South Maplewood Avenue in the Chicago Lawn neighborhood, police said.

His vehicle was double-parked in the street, impeding vehicles attempting to drive past, police said. The victim got into an argument with the driver of a vehicle attempting to pass, who returned with a weapon and shot the victim in the head, police said.

He was taken in “stable” condition to Advocate Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, police said.

About 15 minutes earlier, a 25-year-old woman was shot in the chest and hip while in her car in the 7500 block of South Coles Avenue in the South Shore neighborhood, authorities said.

She was taken in critical condition to Northwestern Memorial Hospital, fire officials said.

About 1:36 a.m. a 35-year-old man was shot in the leg in the 2800 block of North Melvina Avenue, police said.

The man’s condition, as well as the hospital he was taken to, were not immediately known.

About 9:10 p.m. Saturday, a man was shot in the 3300 block of South Ashland Avenue, police said. The 30-year-old man was shot twice in the leg and taken in “stable” condition to Mercy Hospital and Medical Center.

About 8:15 p.m. on Friday night a 21-year-old man walked into Saint Bernard Hospital with a gunshot wound to his side, police said. He told authorities that he had been shot in the 7200 block of South Normal Avenue.

About 2:20 a.m., a 23-year-old man was shot in the Humboldt Park neighborhood while walking his dog. The man was walking his dog in the 3900 block of West Thomas Street, police said.

He suffered gunshot wounds to the wrist, shoulder and back, police said.

He was taken to Mount Sinai Hospital in serious condition, according to police. The shooting may have been gang-related, since the victim has gang affiliations, according to police.

Two cousins, ages 19 and 22, were wounded in a shooting early Saturday in the North Side Rogers Park neighborhood.

The shooting occurred at 3:34 a.m. in the 1600 block of West Jonquil Terrace, police said. The two cousins were part of a group of people who were standing on the corner when they were about to get into their vehicle, police said. At that point a black vehicle drove by and someone inside opened fire on them, police said.

Both men — the 19-year-old in critical condition and the 22-year-old in serious condition — were taken to St. Francis Hospital in Evanston, police said.

A couple hours later, about 5:30 a.m., a 21-year-old man was standing across the street from his home in the 2400 block of South Troy Street when a silver-colored vehicle with several occupants drove by and a rear seat passenger exited and shot him multiple time, police said.

The victim, who has gang affiliations, according to police, was taken in critical condition to Mount Sinai Hospital. The shooting was believed to be gang-related.
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The Epidemiology Of Gun Violence: Race, Region And Policy

http://www.npr.org/2013/03/26/175378...ion-and-policy

A Washington Post analysis of statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention finds a correlation between gun deaths, and race and geographic location. African Americans are much more likely to be victims of gun-related homicide, whereas whites are more likely to commit suicide.
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You all do know that this is a fetish thread for williamser, right? He can post negative images of minorities associated with gun deaths until his little dark heart is content.
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You all do know that this is a fetish thread for williamser, right? He can post negative images of minorities associated with gun deaths until his little dark heart is content.
So obvious, isn't it? He must not understand the difference between "responsible gun owners" and criminals.


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