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Feb 17th, 2013, 11:53 AM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
Y esta es una muestra de la reacción q su twit ha generado entre sus compañeros de la liga americana:
http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/0...rs-on-twitter/
February 15, 2013, 5:17 pm
U.S. Players Rally Behind Robbie Rogers on Twitter
By ANDREW DAS
Still think a gay athlete like Robbie Rogers wouldn’t be accepted in the locker room? Some of Rogers’s teammates showed their support on Friday via Twitter.
Much love and respect to my boy @robbierogers ! Proud to be your friend bro
— Stuart Holden (@stuholden) 15 Feb 13
Extremely proud of the courage from @robbierogers. Truth is not always easy to display, but truly strong people always find a way #RESPECT
— Oguchi Onyewu (@OguchiOnyewu5) 15 Feb 13
100 percent love and support for one of my best friends Robbie Rogers. You will be missed on the pitch. Amazing talent, amazing person.
— Sacha Kljestan (@SachaKljestan) 15 Feb 13
Proud of you bro @robbierogers! #leader #strength!
— brad guzan (@bguzan) 15 Feb 13
“@robbierogers: http://t.co/iaPHaFGy Just getting some sh*t off my chest. http://t.co/yEKfWaQI” Congrats, Robbie! Really happy for you.
— Omar Gonzalez (@Omar4Gonzalez) 15 Feb 13
@robbierogers proud of u buddy. Hope u only retire of ur over soccer and want to pursue other interests.
— Carlos Bocanegra (@BocaBoca3) 15 Feb 13
@robbierogers Brave men like you will make it so that one day there’s no need for an announcement.That day can’t arrive soon enough.#Support
— Eddie Pope (@EddiePope23) 15 Feb 13
Much respect @robbierogers. Nothing but support for you
— Chris Pontius (@ChrisPontius13) 15 Feb 13
@robbierogers Really proud of you bro! See you soon
— Charlie Davies (@CharlieDavies9) 15 Feb 13
Fully support @robbierogers as he steps away from the game and comes out about being gay. #respect
— Taylor Twellman (@TaylorTwellman) 15 Feb 13
@robbierogers good for you man! All the best! Terps
— AJ DeLaGarza (@AJD_20) 15 Feb 13
Proud of my boy @robbierogers! Took a lot of courage and we all support you. Love you bro. Gonna miss bullying you on the pitch though! lol
— Maurice Edu (@MauriceEdu) 15 Feb 13
My dude @robbierogers much love and respect. Very proud to be your friend. Roomies/brothers for life.… http://t.co/SSdTqnGV
— Brad Evans (@brad_evans3) 15 Feb 13
@robbierogers Good for you brother. #respect
— Dax McCarty (@DaxMcCarty11) 15 Feb 13
The bravery of Robbie Rogers in commendable, I hope he realizes that he doesn’t need to retire. He will be more supported than he knows.
— Kasey Keller (@KaseyKeller18) 15 Feb 13
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Feb 17th, 2013, 12:35 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
Dudo que la reacción hubiera sido la misma de haber sido un jugador de una liga europea, o ya puestos de una de las cuatro ligas mayores americanas.
De todos modos, el mayor problema que tendría un jugador que saliera del armario, no sería ni remotamente sus compañeros (aunque hubiera alguna reacción adversa, serían claramente minoritaria) si no los entrenadores (algunos son bastante carpetovetónicos), los presidentes-directivos de los clubs (muchos, francamente conservadores) y los aficionados, no el aficionado medio (que me da que superaría el tema en poco tiempo) si no los aficionados radicales, que tantos clubs se empeñan en mimar
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Feb 17th, 2013, 12:37 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
ay dios que bonito todo 
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Feb 17th, 2013, 01:06 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
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Dudo que la reacción hubiera sido la misma de haber sido un jugador de una liga europea, o ya puestos de una de las cuatro ligas mayores americanas.
De todos modos, el mayor problema que tendría un jugador que saliera del armario, no sería ni remotamente sus compañeros (aunque hubiera alguna reacción adversa, serían claramente minoritaria) si no los entrenadores (algunos son bastante carpetovetónicos), los presidentes-directivos de los clubs (muchos, francamente conservadores) y los aficionados, no el aficionado medio (que me da que superaría el tema en poco tiempo) si no los aficionados radicales, que tantos clubs se empeñan en mimar
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Aún así, es un paso adelante. Hace nada solo teníamos como ejemplo d futbolista q salió del armario uno q se suicidó en los 90. En año han salido un par de casos y la gente no tiene reparos en apoyarlo públicamente.
Os acordáis de la carta q mandó el futbolista (de futbol americano en este caso) hetero Chris Kluwe al Huff Post como defensa a un compañero q había sido criticado públicamente por un político tras defender el matrimonio homosexual en Maryland? (bueno ahora no estoy seguro de si lo llegué a postear aquí). Tuvo mucha repercusión también en twitter y USA y es otra muestra de q la opinión pública está cambiando poco a poco
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Feb 17th, 2013, 01:09 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
Bueno x si acaso no lo postee, lo vuelvo a hacer, xq merece la pena. Ni que decir tiene q las muestras de apoyo y agradecimiento q recibió fueron infinitas:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobile...b_1866216.html
Editor's note: Baltimore Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo has voiced his support for a Maryland ballot initiative that would legalize same-sex marriage in the state. In response, Maryland state delegate Emmett C. Burns, Jr. (D-Baltimore) wrote a letter to Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti urging him to "inhibit such expressions from your employee." In the open letter below, Minnesota Vikings punter Chris Kluwe responds to Burns.
Dear Emmett C. Burns, Jr.,
I find it inconceivable that you are an elected official of the United States government. Your vitriolic hatred and bigotry make me ashamed and disgusted to think that you are in any way responsible for shaping policy at any level. The views you espouse neglect to consider several fundamental key points, which I will outline in great detail:
1. As I suspect you have not read the Constitution, I would like to remind you that the very first amendment in this founding document deals with the freedom of speech, particularly the abridgment of said freedom. By using your position as an elected official (when referring to your constituents in order to implicitly threaten the Ravens organization) to argue that the Ravens should silence Brendon Ayanbadejo from voicing his support for same-sex marriage, not only are you clearly violating the First Amendment, but you come across as a narcissistic fromunda stain. What on Earth would possess you to say something so mind-boggingly stupid? It baffles me that a man such as yourself, a man who relies on that same First Amendment to pursue your own religious studies without fear of persecution from the state, could somehow justify stifling another person's right to free speech. To call that "hypocritical" would be to do a disservice to the word. "Mindfuckingly, obscenely hypocritical" starts to approach it a little bit.
2. You wrote, "Many of your fans are opposed to such a view and feel it has no place in a sport that is strictly for pride, entertainment and excitement." Holy fucking shitballs. Did you seriously just say that, as someone who is, according to your Wikipedia page, "deeply involved in government task forces on the legacy of slavery in Maryland"? Have you not heard of Kenny Washington? Jackie Robinson? As recently as 1962 the NFL still had segregation, which was only done away with by brave athletes and coaches daring to speak their mind and do the right thing, and you're going to say that political views have "no place in a sport"? I can't even begin to fathom the cognitive dissonance that must be coursing through your rapidly addled mind right now; the mental gymnastics your brain has to tortuously contort itself through to make such a preposterous statement are surely worthy of an Olympic gold medal (the Russian judge gives you a 10 for "beautiful oppressionism").
3. This is more a personal quibble of mine, but why do you hate freedom? Why do you hate the fact that other people want a chance to live their lives and be happy, even though they may believe in something different from what you believe, or act differently from you? How does gay marriage affect your life in any way, shape, or form? Are you worried that if gay marriage became legal, all of a sudden you'd start thinking about penis? ("Oh shit. Gay marriage just passed. Gotta get me some of that hot dong action!") Will all your friends suddenly turn gay and refuse to come to your Sunday Ticket grill-outs? (Unlikely. Gay people enjoy watching football, too.)
I can assure you that gay people getting married will have zero effect on your life. They won't come into your house and steal your children. They won't magically turn you into a lustful cockmonster. They won't even overthrow the government in an orgy of hedonistic debauchery because all of a sudden they have the same legal rights as the other 90 percent of our population, rights like Social Security benefits, childcare tax credits, family and medical leave to take care of loved ones, and COBRA health care for spouses and children. You know what having these rights will make gay Americans? Full-fledged citizens, just like everyone else, with the freedom to pursue happiness and all that that entails. Do the civil-rights struggles of the past 200 years mean absolutely nothing to you?
In closing, I would like to say that I hope this letter in some small way causes you to reflect upon the magnitude of the colossal foot-in-mouth clusterfuck you so brazenly unleashed on a man whose only crime was speaking out for something he believed in. Best of luck in the next election; I'm fairly certain you might need it.
Sincerely,
Chris Kluwe
P.S. I've also been vocal as hell about the issue of gay marriage, so you can take your "I know of no other NFL player who has done what Mr. Ayanbadejo is doing" and shove it in your closed-minded, totally-lacking-in-empathy pie hole.
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Feb 17th, 2013, 01:49 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
Kris Kluwe es genial, un tío muy inteligente y divertido, y Brendon Ayanbadejo tres cuartos de lo mismo. Es realmente flipante la implicación que tienen ambos en el asunto.
También hay un jugador joven de la NBA que ha hecho campaña a favor del matrimonio gay, aunque en su caso es más lógico, ya que tiene dos madres.
Por cierto, que ojo al dato, el político en cuestión era del partido demócrata. De los republicanos mejor ni hablar, aunque están reculando mucho en el tema, al ver que las encuestas han cambiado de signo.
Lo cierto es que en estados unidos la cosa ha cambiado de forma notoria en los últimos años, e incluso en ciertos sectores más rancios se empieza a dar un cambio. Carrie Underwwod fue muy criticada por su apoyo al matrimonio gay, pero lo cierto es que ni sus ventas ni su presencia en la radio (la radio americana es muy conservadora, y la country aun más) se han visto afectadas en absoluto.
Y la salida del armario (más o menos) de Frank Ocean también ha hecho que se haga notar el cambio dentro de la comunidad negra del hip hop.
De las cuatro ligas grandes americanas, la más complicada para un jugador gay sería la de beisbol, ya que es en la parte más conservadora del país donde tiene más peso, vamos en pleno cinturón de la biblia.
Y probablemente la más receptiva sería la liga de Hockey por que aquí entra Canadá, y de hecho desde los Toronto Mapple Leafs se ha hecho una campaña muy fuerte en cuanto a erradicación de la homofobia, principalmente por que el hijo de un directivo (o del entrenador) era gay (el chico murió en un accidente de coche hace unos años, aunque su padre había iniciado la campaña cuando él estaba vivo), y en general han sido muchos los jugadores que se han mostrado favorables
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Feb 17th, 2013, 01:50 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
lemaitre se lesiona y dice adios a goteborg y a la temporada indoor al completo =( (bueno, a lo poco que queda...)
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Feb 17th, 2013, 02:16 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
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Por cierto, que ojo al dato
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Feb 17th, 2013, 09:12 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
Y Rafa después del desastre de Viña del Mar se lleva Sao Paulo, ante Nalbandián y por paliza 6-2 6-3, ojalá que esto le de confianza, por que todo sea dicho, aún ganando hoy su juego ha sido paupérrimo durante toda la semana...
Proxima parada el abierto de México, a ver que tal con gente como Ferrer.
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Feb 17th, 2013, 09:18 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
sufrio de lo lindo con charly berlocq, aunque hoy mejor, cierto es que ha tenido que remontar un 0-3 abajo en el segundo set, pero vamos, sin problemas
aunque aun no esta jugando bien...veremos en acapulco, que es un 500, que tal
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Feb 17th, 2013, 09:20 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
Lo importante viene ahora y se verá si puede estar luchando con los grandes o no ...
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Feb 18th, 2013, 10:06 AM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
Bueno, con calma. La última vez que volvió de una lesión importante jugó fatal unos cuantos meses. Visto lo de ayer, no está ni de coña para competir con los mejores, pero poquito a poquito irá cogiendo el nivel
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Feb 18th, 2013, 01:02 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
Yo lo vi en el partido de semis y jugó bastante mal (comparándole con el antiguo Rafa claro está). Se movía bastante lento, no estaba para nada rápido de piernas y en las reacciones y además jugaba mucho más ultradefensivo que a lo que nos tenía acostumbrados 
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Feb 18th, 2013, 03:08 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
el 20 sale l lista de los seleccionados para goteborg. fingers crossed
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Feb 18th, 2013, 08:43 PM
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Re: Deportes en general vol. 3
De la página de la ITF:
Pablo Carreno-Busta is on fire this year! So far in 2013, he has participated in four tournaments, making the final in all four, and winning the last three! He has also won a doubles title! What's even more impressive is that, in singles, he has only dropped 3 sets this year, in 23 matches!
A ver si el chaval explota, que las lesiones le cortaron la progresión y se merece llegar arriba.
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