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Old Feb 17th, 2013, 09:36 AM   #2401
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Re: Fed Cup Discussion Thread Vol 2: GER - SRB (WG PlayOff) April 20

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Grönefeld hat mit Peschke eine extrem gute Partnerin, die wäre bescheuert, wenn sie das aufgeben würde.
und angie und bine wären bescheuert wenn sie jetzt wegen fed cup mit doppel anfangen würden ... den käse sollen sie mal anderen überlassen...
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Old Feb 17th, 2013, 09:38 AM   #2402
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Re: Fed Cup Discussion Thread Vol 2: GER - SRB (WG PlayOff) April 20

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Sie hat für den 2. Fed Cup Termin bislang nicht abgesagt
sie kann ja mit der truppe trainieren, schadet sicher nicht vor stuttgart...und sagen, dass sie notfalls spielt, aber sich nicht unbedingt für die einzel anbieten
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Old Feb 17th, 2013, 09:48 AM   #2403
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sie kann ja mit der truppe trainieren, schadet sicher nicht vor stuttgart...und sagen, dass sie notfalls spielt, aber sich nicht unbedingt für die einzel anbieten
Sie ist derzeit aber sogar die beste Deutsche, wenn man nur die Ergebnisse von 2013 nimmt und die 2. beste Deutsche, wenn man die Ergebnisse der letzten 6 Monate nimmt. Dazu hat sie beide Serbinnen jeweils in 2 Sätzen geschlagen.
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Old Feb 17th, 2013, 09:59 AM   #2404
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Re: Fed Cup Discussion Thread Vol 2: GER - SRB (WG PlayOff) April 20

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und angie und bine wären bescheuert wenn sie jetzt wegen fed cup mit doppel anfangen würden ... den käse sollen sie mal anderen überlassen...
Fed Cup wird da sicherlich allerhöchstens eine zweitrangige Rolle Spielen, vermutlich will Angie schlicht Matchpraxis will und ähnlich wie Jule ihr Netzspiel durch das Doppel verbessern. Zumal es ja auch durchaus möglich ist, dass beide die Sonntags-Einzel spielen würden und damit eine von beiden definitiv Matches direkt nacheinander hätte.
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Old Feb 17th, 2013, 11:10 AM   #2405
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Ja von mir aus, aber der ganze Text ist recht insidermäßig und dann noch gegen Barthel ausgerichtet und das beim ersten Post....
Ich habe den Text von Bergstrasse gerade erst entdeckt.
Interessanter Beitrag. Es ist immer wieder erstaunlich was für verschiedenartige Leute sich hierher verirren.

Stimmt, die Sache mit Barthel wirkt ein wenig unterbelichtet und unrund in dem demonstrativ aufklärerischen Stil dieses ansonsten tiefschürfenden Beitrags.

Der "Schimmel der Unwahrheit" und der "Stahlkappenschuheinsatz, Pfui", gegen Andrea, waren für mich die sprachlich-kreativen Höhepunkte des Authors.

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Old Feb 17th, 2013, 11:39 AM   #2406
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Re: Fed Cup Discussion Thread Vol 2: GER - SRB (WG PlayOff) April 20

Muss ALG bald doch draussen bleiben?

Kerber/Görges spielen Doppel in Dubai..sie bekamen eine WC.
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Old Feb 17th, 2013, 11:46 AM   #2407
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Muss ALG bald doch draussen bleiben?

Kerber/Görges spielen Doppel in Dubai..sie bekamen eine WC.
Das ändert aber nichts dadran, dass Kerber kein Doppel spielen kann
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Klar kann Kerber Doppel spielen
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Das ändert aber nichts dadran, dass Kerber kein Doppel spielen kann
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Klar kann Kerber Doppel spielen
ich kann auch Doppel spielen, nur halt richtig schlecht
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Klar kann Kerber Doppel spielen
Vielleicht kann sie es, aber im Vergleich zu Grönefeld, Lisicki und Görges eher nicht so gut.

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Im Doppel sind eben ein guter Aufschlag und ein gutes Netzspiel ganz nützlich. Beides jetzt nicht so zwingend Angies Stärken.
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Grönefeld hat mit Peschke eine extrem gute Partnerin, die wäre bescheuert, wenn sie das aufgeben würde.
Eben, und die beiden harmonieren meines Erachtens auch gut. ALG hat die Power und Peschke die Volleys, die Erfahrung und die mentale Stärke.
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Im Doppel sind eben ein guter Aufschlag und ein gutes Netzspiel ganz nützlich. Beides jetzt nicht so zwingend Angies Stärken.
Richtig, Kerber hat nicht die besten und wichtigsten Qualitäten fürs Doppel. Für mich sind sie und Petkovic im Doppel schwächer als die anderen Mädels. Barthel nimmt Doppel glaub ich nicht so ernst, ihren Stärken sollte es schon entgegenkommen.
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Vielleicht kann sie es, aber im Vergleich zu Grönefeld, Lisicki und Görges eher nicht so gut.

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Wenn dann schau auf GS-Ebene und bitte nicht die Zeit, wo Grönefeld unter Font de Mora gearbeitet hat. Selbst im Einzel war sie danach 2 Klassen schlechter. Die WTA-Turniere spielt kaum eine ambitionierte Einzelspielerin bzw. spielt dort max. 1 Match um sich an die Bedingungen zu gewöhnen.
Das Doppel hat schon lange keinen großen Stellenwert mehr bei gewöhnlichen Turnieren. Die Zeiten wo da Topdamen wie Navratilova, Sukova, Kohde-Kilsch und Shriver regelmäßig Einzel und Doppel gespielt haben, sind vorbei. Bei den Herren ist das noch viel schlimmer.


Kerber hat ganze 5 Doppelturniere in ihrer Wertung, eben halt nur die GS-Turniere und das ein oder andere ausgewählte Turnier.
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