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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 04:14 PM   #136
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Re: Top ten favourite novels

There is no canon. There are only, on one side, books wonderfully written with a brilliant questioning of our society, life, world... in it. (Those one are called masterpieces.).
On the other side, there are books with entertaining values, fun to read but those are not masterpiece (or even piece of art).
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 04:37 PM   #137
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Isn't it more important that people are reading at all?
I have a problem even with this. If I find a job in school one day, I'll be a horrible teacher, I don't feel like telling people that they must read. I can't even convince my boyfriend to read something, let alone teenagers. And if I have to convince 14 yo kids to read Serbian medieval biographies (which is obligatory), it's gonna be only worse.
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I have a problem even with this. If I find a job in school one day, I'll be a horrible teacher, I don't feel like telling people that they must read. I can't even convince my boyfriend to read something, let alone teenagers. And if I have to convince 14 yo kids to read Serbian medieval biographies (which is obligatory), it's gonna be only worse.
That's how it always is with high schoolers, you tell them to do something and they do the opposite
I did read in high school but just the stuff I was interested in, not the obligatory books - with those, I just skimmed through wikipedia summary before a class. It's ironic because now I am actually reading all those books (and I like them) because otherwise I feel like there's a gap in my education (which is more or less filled in by now)
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That's how it always is with high schoolers, you tell them to do something and they do the opposite
I did read in high school but just the stuff I was interested in, not the obligatory books - with those, I just skimmed through wikipedia summary before a class. It's ironic because now I am actually reading all those books (and I like them) because otherwise I feel like there's a gap in my education (which is more or less filled in by now)
I worked as a teacher substitute once in an elementary school, it was only for few weeks. I asked them to write an essay about Serbian oral poetry and I remember that one kid copied an essay from some Internet page without changing a single word. The best thing is that it was written by someone with an university degree, maybe it was even a Ph.D student. I died when I read it, the writing style was so outstanding, I believe that wouldn't be able to write something like that.
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1. Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward

It's a visual novel on the PS Vita and 3DS.
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Off the top of my head in no particular order:

Cien años de Soledad - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
The Little Prince - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
For Whom the Bells Toll - Ernest Hemingway
The Godfather - Mario Puzo
Pedro Paramo y El llano en llamas - Juan Rulfo
La Flor de Lis - Elena Poniatowska
La Noche Es Virgen - Jaime Bayly
Glamourama - Bret Easton Ellis
Game of Thrones - George RR Martin
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I have some non fiction books I love dearly as well. There is a bio on Charles Goodnight by j evetts Haley that I love dearly. We pointed them north, is a memoir of Teddy Blue Abbott and exceptional


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The Sound and the Fury
Catcher in the Rye
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
Lolita
Rage
Brave New World
1984
Slaughterhouse Five
The Grapes of Wrath
Tropic of Cancer
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I still have issues with Faulkner. Hard to understand. Catcher and the Rye I hated
Different strokes. Sound & the Fury is often described as one of the most challenging novels to read in all of literature, next to perhaps Ulysses, due to its pervasive use of stream of consciousness narration and characters whose mental processes border on the psychotic, certainly way past dysfunctional. For me, it was a challenge to conquer, but I enjoyed doing it. I like the way Faulkner writes. I find that I mimic his style often in my own writing. By that I mean, I appreciate his ability to capture a deteriorating mind and portray it believeably.

As for the later, I have a novel in progress which is similar in tone to that which which Salinger infuses in Holden, so I do consider it somewhat of an influence. Not so much in content, or relevance, but for its style. I think that Holden remains a very "modern personality" with which most people can intuitively connect.
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Different strokes. Sound & the Fury is often described as one of the most challenging novels to read in all of literature, next to perhaps Ulysses, due to its pervasive use of stream of consciousness narration and characters whose mental processes border on the psychotic, certainly way past dysfunctional. For me, it was a challenge to conquer, but I enjoyed doing it. I like the way Faulkner writes. I find that I mimic his style often in my own writing. By that I mean, I appreciate his ability to capture a deteriorating mind and portray it believeably.

As for the later, I have a novel in progress which is similar in tone to that which which Salinger infuses in Holden, so I do consider it somewhat of an influence. Not so much in content, or relevance, but for its style. I think that Holden remains a very "modern personality" with which most people can intuitively connect.
Nothing can touch 'Finnegans Wake' (granted, some say it isn't even a novel )
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Yeah, there are people like "Quagmire", and then there are people who can actually separate wheat from chaff and have opinions about things that go beyond tripe and pure bullshit and recognize the value in literature. Other than the fact that you like Family Guy's humor, and think it's a funny joke, do you have any actual literary basis for criticizing Salinger's book?

And by the way--it's precisely because Holden Caulfield is a self-appointed, "pseudo-intellectual" who's got a profanity-laced opinion on everything from A-to Z twice over that makes him so representative of modern society and its failures......do you know how many Holdens there are, for example, right here on TF? He'd be a model citizen in today's world, dysfunctional and constantly shifting blame onto others, which perhaps does make him an ideal target for ridicule, I suppose, but nonethess a worthy character to study.
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