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Old Jan 24th, 2013, 04:39 PM   #1141
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si, muy bonita la historia, lo lei en la web de la itf el otro dia y me quede flipando, no conocia su caso. se llama lee. esperemos que llegue a algo!
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Old Jan 24th, 2013, 04:41 PM   #1142
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pasta y tal. Y has mejorado mucho Oli? Nos ganarías ahora?
no se tu, pero a mi la jekyllia me parecio muy bueno jugaba a lo que yo pero mucho mejor. igual si yo tuviera un saque medio potable podria plantar cara, pero en potencia me saca horrores
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No, eso solo significa que tienen la otra jugadora es mejor (o si me apuras que su resto es mejor al saque de la spanish).



Obviedad. Nadie te va a discutir esta perogrullada



No entiendo muy bien lo que quieres decir aquí. Pero no creo que se contradiga a lo que yo he afirmado --> Que a esas edades la gran mayoría de las jugadoras no cuentan con un gran saque, por lo que si quieres ganar un partido tienes que basarte en el juego de fondo, visión de juego y movilidad en la pista
Como no sé hacer multiquotes dentro de un único mensaje te lo pongo todo seguidito.

En el primer apartado, si es que lo he entendido bien porque creo que te has comido un par de palabras, das por hecho que el resto de la rival es mejor que el de las españolas en cuestión. Pues bien, eso mismo se puede suponer de su saque así que queda todo neutralizado. Sobre el juego de fondo tampoco se puede elucubrar nada ya que como mucho las habrá visto jj74 en esas webs raras que se saca de la manga pero nunca comparte y como él mismo dice, tener resultados potentes a estas edades no quiere decir nada. Y mira si no las derrotas random de Dementieva, que tenía un juego de fondo mejor que el de bastantes jugadoras mediocres que consiguieron derrotarla. Volviendo al saque, no tendrán la potencia de Serena pero tampoco tienen ocho años como cuando veíamos jugar por primera vez a Virginia Peña. Ya entrenan como profesionales y a lo mejor el hecho de que pierdan tantos saques se puede deber a que no entrenan ese golpe tanto como otros; una tónica que se repite en la mayoría de las españolas (que es el tema que nos ocupa).


Esa perogrullada no se había mencionado anteriormente en el tema, así que creo que era bastante pertinente.


Repito: no estamos hablando de un saque al nivel del de Serena. A esas edades lo que si está medio desarrollado es el patrón de juego de cada una. Nadie discute lo del juego de fondo, puede que las rivales de las españolas lo tuvieran pero puede que los pocos saques que consiguieron ganar marcaran la diferencia.
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He escuchado alguna que otra vez que tienes muy buena munyeca (aparte de otros muchos "weapons") así que estoy seguro que podrías darme algo de juego
Para activar mi prodigiosa muñeca necesitaría aferrarme a un palo muy, muy grande
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ay q mono el niño, y ole sus cojones porque debe ser dificil jugar así
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no se tu, pero a mi la jekyllia me parecio muy bueno jugaba a lo que yo pero mucho mejor. igual si yo tuviera un saque medio potable podria plantar cara, pero en potencia me saca horrores
Eso quiere decir que a la jekyllia no pero a mí sí?
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pasta y tal. Y has mejorado mucho Oli? Nos ganarías ahora?
Pues hombre viendo la paliza que le metisteis a Manu y Noel no creo que te ganara... por ahora!

Para hacerte una idea (y te pongo a los irish como ejemplo porque son de los pocos que conozco en el mundo GLTA), mi nivel ahora es muy parejo al de Noel Quirke o John Darby (de hecho a este le gané el otro día a 3 sets)

Aunque claro está que si me pones a jugar en tierra mi juego bajaría bastante de nivel, aunque en el torneo de Londres de este anyo al final hasta le pille el puntillo


Al de Dublin tampoco vienes, Di?
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Ains mis perrellys mudaos a Irlanda y con un poco de suerte os llaman pa la Davis viendo el percal
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Pues hombre viendo la paliza que le metisteis a Manu y Noel no creo que te ganara... por ahora!

Para hacerte una idea (y te pongo a los irish como ejemplo porque son de los pocos que conozco en el mundo GLTA), mi nivel ahora es muy parejo al de Noel Quirke o John Darby (de hecho a este le gané el otro día a 3 sets)

Aunque claro está que si me pones a jugar en tierra mi juego bajaría bastante de nivel, aunque en el torneo de Londres de este anyo al final hasta le pille el puntillo


Al de Dublin tampoco vienes, Di?
Ah, pues si q has mejorado, no? Yo hasta septiembre q empiece el ranking de mi club no volvere a jugar regularmente. Este año como mucho hare un glta fuera y seguro q no sera Dublin.


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Eso quiere decir que a la jekyllia no pero a mí sí?
a ti no se, ni he jugado contra ti ni te he visto jugar
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Ains mis perrellys mudaos a Irlanda y con un poco de suerte os llaman pa la Davis viendo el percal
pues la verdad es que ahora con niland retirado, aparte de mc gee no te sabria decir mas tenistas de irlanda xd
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Lo que pasa en Irlanda es que hay como 50-60 jugadores de muy buen nivel (aunque están viniendo muchísimos juniors por debajo) y el resto es bastante parejo.

Para haceros una idea gente como Niall Curran o David Gough que juegan OPEN en GLTA juegan class 3 (va desde Premier hasta 7) y contra los que están rollo entre el 40 y el 50 del ranking irlandés tendrían que jugar muy bien para poder hacerles más de 2-3 juegos

Esta finde jugaré winter-league contra el equipo de Trinity (seguramente alguno de ellos esté top-30), asi que os cuento la paliza que me llevo!
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ya bueno, pero esos que dices fijo que no le harian mas de 3 tampoco al 40-50 de españa
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pues la verdad es que ahora con niland retirado, aparte de mc gee no te sabria decir mas tenistas de irlanda xd
Creo que habrá como 4-5 tíos con ranking ATP en Irlanda...
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