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Old Jan 20th, 2013, 10:50 PM   #406
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

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Caro doesn't give herself much time during the season for training with her heavy schedule though. Groeneveld complained about that before.
So has Caroline. The road map is fine if unless you keep winning.

The point I was making was that changes are a constant process throughout the season, but you only introduce them into a match when they are ready. Mads commented that most players use smaller tourneys to test changes in the wild before bringing them to the big tournaments.
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Old Jan 20th, 2013, 10:54 PM   #407
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

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I really hope you are joking. Otherwise a completely idiotic comment

R3 vs Tsurenko: 5 Winners, 17 UEs = - 12

That is a horrible stat. And why do you say this ratio is typical ?!

R1 vs Lisicki: 12 Winners, 8 UEs = + 4
R2 vs Vekic: 13 Winners, 15 UEs = - 2

Not to mention the great matches when Caro was playing as #1.
I am not kidding at all, actually. If you were a bit smart you would not ignore the opponents UEs in the match stats. The number of winners is never what counts most in Caro's matches, rather the number of errors from the opponents' racket. Oh,and save that patronising attitude to GM thread.
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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 01:41 AM   #408
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

It matters how you play key points. Caro had plenty of chances to not lose 2 times in 2 weeks to Sveta, but you have to play break points well.Its so mental. You have to be able to play well consitently with her style. Cant be up & down
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

Tbh,I felt that--in her current state--Caro's chances of getting past the QFs were fairly remote,and that's why this loss isn't as disappointing to me as it otherwise might have been.Can't see where there's a big difference in confidence between making the 4th Round and reaching the QFs,and I'm not so sure that Caro would take/learn that much from a non-competitive match with her Belarussian buddy......Still,I'm glad that Caroline didn't flat-out embarrass herself on the AO swing,and perhaps she'll find some success on spring HCs before clay season begins
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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 06:21 AM   #410
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

Considering that many thought she would exit in the first round this result is not bad.
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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 06:40 AM   #411
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

Caroline will lose 10th place to Bartoli
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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 07:31 AM   #412
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

Not a bad run at all, I believe. I never expected Caro to survive Lisicki after all. And I feared a thorough drubbing from Kuznetsova, which, fortunately, did not happen.

So, on to the next slam and the tournaments in between. But Caro has got to step up next time around.

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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

Regarding the ranking, at least the three players in front of Caroline are also struggling. If she can have decent results in Doha/Dubai/Indian Wells/Miami she should be able to stabilise her ranking inside the top ten.

This loss sucks, it really does, but after Brisbane/Sydney few of us thought that she would get this far. Let's see if she can do better over the next couple of months.
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

Still and all, to be honest about it, I still feel really bad about the loss as I always do after every match Caro loses.
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

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This loss sucks, it really does, but after Brisbane/Sydney few of us thought that she would get this far. Let's see if she can do better over the next couple of months.
She got this far because Lisicki played crazy bad after being up 3-0 in set 3.
In her last match before Sveta, she was serving for the match, made 2 unforced backhand errors, but the girl she played just dumped routine balls in the net.
This was 3 tournaments with only 4 match wins. Now the last 4 majors she has a total of 5 match wins.
These are averages of losing in round 2.
From her loss in Copenhagen last year thru her loss to Begu, she won 14 of 24 matches over 4 months. Again an average of losing in round 2.

When she lost here last year and fell from #1 to #4, she didnt go train for Doha, she went to Dubai to watch Rory, then lost her 1st match in Doha.

She doesnt have a coach. That could be a big part of this current problem. She makes her training schedule. Its all within her comfort zone. She probably is the person who decided she would go for more high risk forehands back in summer of 2011.

So lets see how Sveta does against VIka, because Sveta took care of Caroline's 2013 Australia season
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

I can't really take comfort in the fact that she got to the fourth round, considering she didn't really play anyone that could hurt her after Lisicki, and Sveta ended up taking her out like I thought she would. If Pavly didn't bomb out in the 1st round, she probably could have taken out Caroline in the 3rd round. She didn't defend her points and she's out of the top 10. Not alot of positives to take from this tournament. We'll have to see how she does in the next mandatory/premier.
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

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She got this far because Lisicki played crazy bad after being up 3-0 in set 3.
In her last match before Sveta, she was serving for the match, made 2 unforced backhand errors, but the girl she played just dumped routine balls in the net.
This was 3 tournaments with only 4 match wins. Now the last 4 majors she has a total of 5 match wins.
These are averages of losing in round 2.
From her loss in Copenhagen last year thru her loss to Begu, she won 14 of 24 matches over 4 months. Again an average of losing in round 2.

When she lost here last year and fell from #1 to #4, she didnt go train for Doha, she went to Dubai to watch Rory, then lost her 1st match in Doha.

She doesnt have a coach. That could be a big part of this current problem. She makes her training schedule. Its all within her comfort zone. She probably is the person who decided she would go for more high risk forehands back in summer of 2011.

So lets see how Sveta does against VIka, because Sveta took care of Caroline's 2013 Australia season
Piotr + Adidas team are still there.
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Piotr + Adidas team are still there.
And what components of her game they have helped her to improve in the last couple of years?
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Re: Danish Delight - Caroline Wozniacki thread - vol 6

I guess we have to see how the whole year plays out. But while other consistent young players like Vika and Aga have progressed in their careers, Caroline has gone backwards.
I dont know if the adidas team helps.

This whole thing is about how much Caroline wants her game to improve. We know she is comfortable with her dad and that will be this year at least. But she is definately not as good as 2010, early 2011, when she closed matches out and had winning streaks.
But first I want to see if Sveta can make her match with Vika competitive. If she can play Vika close, then losing twice to Sveta will look okay
So lets see how this goes.
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I can't really take comfort in the fact that she got to the fourth round, considering she didn't really play anyone that could hurt her after Lisicki, and Sveta ended up taking her out like I thought she would. If Pavly didn't bomb out in the 1st round, she probably could have taken out Caroline in the 3rd round. She didn't defend her points and she's out of the top 10. Not alot of positives to take from this tournament. We'll have to see how she does in the next mandatory/premier.
that indeed. moreover I would point out that she lost a match in which she was the player playing the best tennis and the one who had more chances to win the match and in the end got edged mentally by Sveta! this is worrying IMO
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