[ShiftyFella]

Originally Posted by paulmara

I was accused of working for Donna Vekic. I´m so proud.

how we know you didn't?

[bruce goose]

Originally Posted by paulmara

I was accused of working for Donna Vekic. I´m so proud.

Well,if she were a couple years older,then you could be proud about rumors that you were her massage therapist.....She's only 16,though,so YOU should give her some time to blossom.....As for the teenage boys who come here,we shouldn't expect too much restraint

[ShiftyFella]

meh...... so much for surprise onside kick by Andy

[bruce goose]

The Texans don't have the same widespread following that the Cowboys do in my country,but my neighbor is a big fan.I think that I might get him a cap when I stop in El Paso on the way home...even though his team is performing one of the most pathetic December chokes by a former wannabe top seed in recent memory....No comment on Romo and the Cowpukes cuz yesterday was par for the course,for them,to close the season

[ShiftyFella]

Last day of the season was rich for me. Chargers, Colts, Minnesota, Bears, Bengals, Skins and Panthers all won. I don't get why Cam can't play big time from start of the season, hope in his junior year he can be better. Chargers and Bears mess too, it's kinda embarrassing for Bears after 7-1 start finishing 10-6 and not making playoffs. Eagles were horrible, Andy should have started Edwards instead of Michael, tho i thought Vick can pull fast one on Giants

[bruce goose]

Not at all unusual for young QBs to be inconsistent;in fact,we can probably expect some ugly games from Luck,RG3 and Seattle's young fellow once def. co-ordinators have had a full offseason to look at tapes and scheme against them.Even Montana had a drop-off in his 2nd full season as a starter after the Niners won their first SB.It wasn't a HUGE drop-off,but it was a noticeable decline from the previous year....he was a quick learner,though,as that was the last time he ever looked young and raw.

The Bears aren't THAT disappointing,IMO,because they simply aren't that good;10-6 is a nice season for such an ordinary team.Chicago has a couple top-flight stars who carry them to a better record than the team's overall talent might normally produce.They have some dependable role players,too but,even though it's a drag to miss the playoffs after starting 7-1,I can't think of any NFC playoff teams who are inferior to the Bears...and they would've almost been guaranteed to go one-and-done even if they HAD made the playoffs.....Don't get me wrong: I like their work ethic and how they overachieved;I'm no Bears-hater...I just don't think they're too special as a team

[ShiftyFella]

Cam first season now looks not that great when you see what Russel, RG3 and Luck have done but i'm not that hard on Cam because Panthers is not that great team, tho for some losses i blame Cam because he can be Cam from the start but not just when there's nothing on the line, because even with a bad team he won games vs tough opponents but loosing to KC and Tampa just horrible, maybe this is problem with offensive coordinator who tries to push his calls but then gives up and hand offense to Cam, also defense gave up some big big leads. Still it's up to Cam to decide what to do on the field, so he needs to be Cam from game one.

Bears is good and tough team, so i'm not sure they would be one and done. Bears have Top5 defense despite being really old, Cutler is tough and i get they have some problems with injuries. When you look at their record they only lost to big time teams but at that time Bears could have challenged them, especially stupid loss to Seattle in OT or horrible performance vs GB at home. Loss to GB was real disappointment and because of that the season, that was one game they could not afford to lose. Bears just flat out missed opportunity to be in playoffs.

Also, 10-6 team missing playoffs speaks volumes about level of competition because at one time it was possibility that disgrace Jets with horrible record could end up in playoffs but football was saved

[bruce goose]

Let me clarify a bit: The Bears are a good team,but not a VERY good team---one of those teams that comes close to making the playoffs yet just misses...which is exactly where they are.Six teams make the playoffs from each conference,and the Bears are,in the eyes of most,inferior to five of the NFC squads.Your best argument might be against the Redskins,who did the flip job(from 3-6 to 7-0 in their final seven games) on what the Bears did(from 7-1 to 3-5 in their final eight).

It certainly wouldn't be anywhere close to unanimous amongst neutral parties;the fairest statement would be that the Bears were about equal to the Skins,IMO...Chicago's strength is their 'D' while it's the 'O' that leads the way in Washington.As for the two weak links,I'd say that the Skins' D was more reliable than the Bears' offense(Cutler makes them look better than they really are: the WRs rarely get separation but,luckily for them,Jay can pass on a dime sometimes...plus his passing opens things up for the slightly-overrated Forte...the pass protection remains abysmal at times).

Having said all that,the NYG are better than either of those two but they paid the price for not respecting the sport enough.All that 'blah,blah,blah...' B.S. about turning it on whenever they reached the playoffs never came to pass cuz they took too many weeks off and it came back to bite them.Aside from playing a shitty 2nd half vs. the Steelers(when they were supposedly trying to win for the Hurricane Sandy victims),there were three pathetic,unprofessional efforts vs. Cincy,Atlanta and Baltimore.If they can win another SB with a low seeding,congrats to them!...but I'll bet you that they don't f--k around as much NEXT year having pissed away the chance to defend their SB crown

[ShiftyFella]

In a way i agree but also no. i think Chicago is on of the top teams in second echelon but not now. Bears D now too old with bunch of injured players and they never fixed offensive line while Lovie was there, this led to alot of problems and injuries on offense, they need to update they team to even come close to this years record, cause D played good for Lovie, i'm not sure new coach would be treated with the same respect and dedication from them.

NYG are another story but i thin they're more fixable, also Coughlin wants to be consistent all season and not only in Cinderella story games

[bruce goose]

The Giants deserve to be in anguish this postseason by watching teams that they could've beaten(IF they had played their best,of course)...that should serve as motivation for them next year

[bruce goose]

Matt Rodgers needs to win more than one isolated SB before he has the right to mouth off like a legendary QB

[paulmara]

Originally Posted by bruce goose

Am inclined to nominate Paul as Tourney Thread Namer for the rest of this season...even though he's too much of a humble guy to seek such a position.

No thanks. It would end very very badly like „Petra attending Penguin Parade in Melbourne while dancing Gangnam Style and having bad pedicure“.

[ShiftyFella]

just passing through

[paulmara]

Originally Posted by ShiftyFella

just passing through

Is it Oregon ?

[ShiftyFella]

Originally Posted by paulmara

Is it Oregon ?

yeah, just some humble celebration for a win over KSU