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Old Jan 4th, 2013, 01:18 AM   #4831
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That's more than 13 love games handed to her opponent on a silver plate.
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Old Jan 4th, 2013, 01:19 AM   #4832
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And if Peng will win her SF, she will be unseeded in Melbourne
Na und?

Wenn Peng gegen Li Na gewinnt, dann sehen wir Barthel vielleicht mal bei Eurosport.

Ist halt dumm gelaufen, zu viele UE halt.
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Old Jan 4th, 2013, 01:23 AM   #4833
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Wenn Peng gegen Li Na gewinnt, dann sehen wir Barthel vielleicht mal bei Eurosport.
Wieso?
Sie hat auch in Melbourne tonnenweise Punkte zu verteidigen. Wenn es blöd läuft, ist Barthel Mitte Februar irgendwo um 60 im Ranking platziert.
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Wieso?
Sie hat auch in Melbourne tonnenweise Punkte zu verteidigen. Wenn es blöd läuft, ist Barthel Mitte Februar irgendwo um 60 im Ranking platziert.
Moment.

Sie hat ja hier zunächst mal Punkte gut gemacht, sonst wäre sie ja im Live-Ranking nicht #32.

Und Hobart kommt ja erst noch. Da wird sie zwar mindestens 16 Punkte verlieren.

Na und?!?
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So dramatisch sehe ich das auch nicht. Und selbst wenn sie im Ranking abrutscht, dass dürfte nicht das Problem sein wenn sie ihr Spiel spielt ist sie auch ganz schnell wieder weiter oben. Dazu muss allerdings das mit "zumachen" der engen Matches wieder klappen und meinetwegen ein paar weniger dieser total unnötigen unerzwungenen Fehler
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Sie hat ja hier zunächst mal Punkte gut gemacht, sonst wäre sie ja im Live-Ranking nicht #32.
Könnte eben auch 33 werden wegen Peng. Hätte sie heute gewonnen, wäre sie auf jeden Fall in Melbourne gesetzt gewesen und dann wäre es auch einfacher R3 dort zu erreichen.

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Und Hobart kommt ja erst noch. Da wird sie zwar mindestens 16 Punkte verlieren.

Na und?!?
Und danach kommt Melbourne mit 160 Punkten. Insgesamt hat Barthel in den nächsten 4 Wochen 466 Punkte zu verteidigen und könnte somit im Worst Case in Richtung 55 bis 60 abfallen.
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Old Jan 4th, 2013, 03:46 AM   #4837
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4.1.: Unfortunately I didn't play as well as yesterday. Partly I played great, but I returned not so well as usual today. Yanina played aggressive and made only few mistakes. I am very confident for the tournament in Hobart, which is starting on Sunday.
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Pretty up and down, she can be great at times and abysmal at other times, it all depends on whether she is "in the groove" at that moment.

She alternates between unplayable and unwatchable. I sympathise with her wholeheartedly, it's really difficult when you can't figure out how to stay in control of that fantastic level of play. When she plays at her peak level she is balancing on a knife edge, whereas top players have learned to turn that knife edge into a little balance beam which they can stand on, still requiring concentration of course.

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So dramatisch sehe ich das auch nicht. Und selbst wenn sie im Ranking abrutscht, dass dürfte nicht das Problem sein wenn sie ihr Spiel spielt ist sie auch ganz schnell wieder weiter oben. Dazu muss allerdings das mit "zumachen" der engen Matches wieder klappen und meinetwegen ein paar weniger dieser total unnötigen unerzwungenen Fehler
Ich bin schon froh, dass sie überhaupt wieder in der Lage ist, Spiele zu gewinnen, was ja nach dem ersten Saisondrittel 2012 kaum noch der Fall war. Und wenn sie in dieser Saison dann ab und zu mal so ein Spiel wie gegen Larsson abliefert, dann bin ich schon zufrieden. Langfristig wäre es natürlich extrem schade für sie, wenn ihre Entwicklung immer wieder durch diese unnötigen Niederlagen gehemmt werden würde.

Das mit dem Zumachen von engen Matches war schon immer ihr Problem. Wenn man auf ihre Homepage geht und sich ihre Ergebnisse seit 2007 mal anguckt, sieht man sehr schnell, dass sie so gut wie jedes Spiel, das im Tiebreak des dritten Satzes endet, auch verliert. Solange sie aber ihre mentale Schwäche nicht als Ursache erkennt, wird sich da auch nicht viel ändern. Ihre Mutter wird sich da wahrscheinlich scheuen, sie in der Hinsicht in Frage zu stellen (so sind die meisten Mütter halt). Daher braucht sie auf jeden Fall einen Trainer (am besten mit Kenntnissen im Mentalcoaching), der sich in objektiver Weise mit ihr auseinandersetzt.

Ansonsten scheint Mona ja mit ihrem Saisonauftakt zufrieden zu sein und schaut bereits optimistisch nach vorne. Also werde ich es ihr gleichtun und freue mich schon auf ihren Auftritt in Hobart.
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Und danach kommt Melbourne mit 160 Punkten. Insgesamt hat Barthel in den nächsten 4 Wochen 466 Punkte zu verteidigen und könnte somit im Worst Case in Richtung 55 bis 60 abfallen.
Warum gehst du immer vom Worst-Case aus? Wenigstens einmal optimistisch sein, sie ist hier nicht in Runde 1 ausgeschieden und hat auch gegen keine No-Name verloren. Klar waren das zu viele Fehler, aber darf Barthel kein Match mehr verlieren oder wie? Schlimmer wäre es doch gewesen, wenn sie sang- und klanglos ausgeschieden wäre.

Immer diese hätte, wenn und könnte. Halbfinale Auckland ist doch wirklich nichts, worüber man sich beschweren sollte, letztens Jahr war in Runde 2 Schluss.
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Old Jan 4th, 2013, 09:17 AM   #4841
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Sieht doch gut für Mona hinsichtlich der Setzliste in Melbourne aus: Li führt gegen Peng 6-4 4-0.
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Li gewinnt 6-4 6-0! Mona wird also beim ersten GS gesetzt sein.
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Old Jan 4th, 2013, 09:49 AM   #4843
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Warum gehst du immer vom Worst-Case aus?
Ich gehe nicht davon aus, sondern habe es nur geschildert. Es liegt an Barthel selbst den Worst Case zu verhindern, nicht an mir.



At least she will be seeded in Melbourne, that will be helpful for her because she has to defend the 3rd round points there.
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Old Jan 4th, 2013, 09:52 AM   #4844
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Ich gehe nicht davon aus, sondern habe es nur geschildert. Es liegt an Barthel selbst den Worst Case zu verhindern, nicht an mir.
Wenn ich das mal so sagen darf, bei dir klingt das immer alles so überdramatisch . Die Australian Open und Hobart haben noch nicht einmal angefangen.
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Anyway not a bad week I didn't expect she will be seeded at the AO
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