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Queen Maria, obviously. 185 68.01%
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Old Dec 11th, 2012, 07:54 PM   #166
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I wasn't the one who brought up greed. Fact is, Sharapova is by far the greediest of all current players, aside from porn she's pretty much doing absolutely everything she can to make a dime. I wasn't the one who brought this up but this is the one area where Sharapova stans really have to sit down...there's no bigger money-whore on tour.

Truth time: Do you guys really like this stuff and support it or do you secretly cringe as well? If it's the first then you have to be the most gullible sheeple ever
Why do you bother with any secret cringes of Sharapova fans? Obviously you're so obsessed with Sharapova you can't even ignore her fans let alone the player itself. But you're not the first not the last poster here who pretends he doesn't give a damn about this greedy bitch, yet posts in almost every single thread about her And it's because of people like you, die-hard haters, who fuel the attention around this money whore and make her such a stand out figure among bunch of other player whom nobody really cares about for a change. Only the most important players in any sport can create such a stir and apart from Serena and Wozniacki nobody even gets close to the attention Sharapova gets. Whether it's justified makes no difference.

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I see. Using your athlete image to push unhealthy candy = doing your job. Actually showing up at tour events and trying to play instead of just staying home = greedy. Makes total sense

And by the way, there are a ton of athletes out there who turn down offers and don't attach their name to every single thing just because it pays. Don't act like this is normal behavior because it isn't..she's doing it excessively.
The answer to that is very simple. Most of the WTA players come from a wealthy background, they don't need to earn as much and can afford to lay back the money milking. Sharapova is rich as hell now but if someone told Yuri when he was fleeing towards Syberia that his daughter would become the most paid female athlete in 20 years time nobody would believe you. You don't understand poverty - in relative terms - if you hadn't tasted it. And you'll never want to go back once you've started making the real money. And that is why Sharapova is doing it IMO. To get rid of the wretched past of Siberian forests. Too much drama? Life is full of it. It's a similar case with WS, just replace Siberia with Negro prejudice.
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Why do you bother with any secret cringes of Sharapova fans? Obviously you're so obsessed with Sharapova you can't even ignore her fans let alone the player itself. But you're not the first not the last poster here who pretends he doesn't give a damn about this greedy bitch, yet posts in almost every single thread about her And it's because of people like you, die-hard haters, who fuel the attention around this money whore and make her such a stand out figure among bunch of other player whom nobody really cares about for a change. Only the most important players in any sport can create such a stir and apart from Serena and Wozniacki nobody even gets close to the attention Sharapova gets. Whether it's justified makes no difference.



The answer to that is very simple. Most of the WTA players come from a wealthy background, they don't need to earn as much and can afford to lay back the money milking. Sharapova is rich as hell now but if someone told Yuri when he was fleeing towards Syberia that his daughter would become the most paid female athlete in 20 years time nobody would believe you. You don't understand poverty - in relative terms - if you hadn't tasted it. And you'll never want to go back once you've started making the real money. And that is why Sharapova is doing it IMO. To get rid of the wretched past of Siberian forests. Too much drama? Life is full of it. It's a similar case with WS, just replace Siberia with Negro prejudice.
Negro...? educated people still use this as a description? in the 21st century? i'm just asking.
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Negro...? educated people still use this as a description? in the 21st century? i'm just asking.
The word hasn't been outlawed, you know. And since I live in a country where the black people are vast minority and all expatriants from all over the world i have no idea what's the correct word to describe a black person without being called a racist. Hell, I've been called many different things and even if I said about Serena as being a black person that would still prove me being a racist
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Because Vika has already blown past her by now, is two years younger and still has her peak to come while Sharapova's is a thing of the past.
Which means you should be concentrating on Azarenka but you just can't seem to let go of Sharapova anyway? I really wonder why? Do you enjoy Sharapova losses more than Azarenka wins (against other players). I suspect you do and that's all I need to know Spare me the answer though.

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Okay, I give up. You guys want to set yourself up for disappointment...fine by me. I wonder how many beatdowns by Vika it takes for you to make peace with the fact that she has simply exceeded Sharapova.
Zero. I fully accept the fact Azarenka has blown by, humiliated and destroyed Sharapova and will go down as the most one-sided rivalry ever seen in WTA. Almost a shame Serena still rides her streak but you'll find a proper excuse for that as well. It's a real pleasure talking to you and I wonder what other reasons to bash Sharapova you can find? We've gone through surfaces, rivals, money, greed and even a bag of candies here and I just wonder what comes next?
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Which means you should be concentrating on Azarenka but you just can't seem to let go of Sharapova anyway? I really wonder why? Do you enjoy Sharapova losses more than Azarenka wins (against other players). I suspect you do and that's all I need to know Spare me the answer though.
I can honestly say that I have never watched a full set let alone a match that did involve Sharapova but none of my faves. I didn't watch her RG final, I didn't even watch her finals against Serena this year because I simply don't give a shit.

And believe me, I would love to ignore her but it's pretty much impossible because her obnoxious stans are everywhere, crowding up the topics that deal with my favorite players (the Vika/Bubka thread is a good example).
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I can honestly say that I have never watched a full set let alone a match that did involve Sharapova but none of my faves. I didn't watch her RG final, I didn't even watch her finals against Serena this year because I simply don't give a shit.
You don't give a shit but all you can talk about is her
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You don't give a shit but all you can talk about is her
Even in a useless thread like snickers vs Sugarpova you can find him trolling and baiting

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Sugarpova on the other I expect to taste like the cheapest kind of candy you can buy, they`ve probably but all kinds of cheap crap in there to maximize her profit margin
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Even in a useless thread like snickers vs Sugarpova you can find him trolling and baiting
I know I mentioned obnoxious stans but that dosen't necessarily mean that I was calling you... I see how you got confused though.
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It would simply be a different story against Peak Pova I think we've seen this enough times this year and Maria is nowhere near her peak.
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Because Vika has already blown past her by now, is two years younger and still has her peak to come while Sharapova's is a thing of the past.
Guesswork. Tell me, what about Azarenka's tennis could possibly get better than it did this year?

You're talking about one who won one slam this year (just like Azarenka), is only #2 behind Azarenka and only had a 2% less in overall winning percentage for the year.

You acknowledge that Maria's not at her peak, and she is still only marginally behind peak Azarenka. In some way you're actually complimenting Maria there .
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Guesswork. Tell me, what about Azarenka's tennis could possibly get better than it did this year?

You're talking about one who won one slam this year (just like Azarenka), is only #2 behind Azarenka and only had a 2% less in overall winning percentage for the year.

You acknowledge that Maria's not at her peak, and she is still only marginally behind peak Azarenka. In some way you're actually complimenting Maria there .
No he didn't say that, he thinks Vika is not peak right now, peak still to come (Serve can obviously be improved to mention one thing). No problem for me complimenting Maria, she did well this year. However it's doubtful if she will ever reach peak again, if not she'll run into multiple problems from here on. Apart from Serena, Vika HC will be too much if she doesn't reach that elusive peak. Other players are improving too.
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No he didn't say that, he thinks Vika is not peak right now, peak still to come (Serve can obviously be improved to mention one thing). No problem for me complimenting Maria, she did well this year. However it's doubtful if she will ever reach peak again, if not she'll run into multiple problems from here on. Apart from Serena, Vika HC will be too much if she doesn't reach that elusive peak. Other players are improving too.
When I said 'peak Azarenka' there I meant we can only go on the present and at the moment 2012 is peak Azarenka
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

Vika has her number now but would never beat 2004-2006 Maria that had a teenage body and moved well despite her height and served consistently well, hitting aces and 2nd serve winners and played fearlessly.

As a Maria fan, I am happy to see her in the Top 3 but really she is still not like this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=664HFmSgE3c

I've even showed a match where she loses to SW - but plays so well.
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Maria's the better player right now..but on grass? I think Petra vs Masha h2h, Petra wins..Maria's posted some consistent results, but I think everybody is in agreement that Petra on grass is more fearsome than Masha.
You mean their H2H on grass? Where they played only 1 time? Where Petra played at a level she never reached again? Yes I mean you're right if Petra would ever play like that again and Maria still be playing out of confidence, Petra may be able to beat her again. That's a lot of "if"s tho. If we go solely by both players stats and even overall H2H Maria is the better player, even on grass. Maria has loss 3 sets in 5 matches (not counting the retirement) against Petra...I don't see much of a debate here. The only thing that makes you think that Petra has a chance is the one time they played on grass Petra won, but you need to understand that one tournament doesn't make the general habit of a player, it was also the only win over Maria that Petra has.
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