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Queen Maria, obviously. 185 68.01%
Vika 87 31.99%
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Old Dec 9th, 2012, 02:15 AM   #61
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

Imo Peak Maria was very dangerous, especially in 2006, ill never forget that. That US open 2006 form was ruthless.
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

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We'll never see Peak vs Peak but we have Current vs Current and right now, Current Vika kicks the fucking shit out of Martha whenever she pleases.
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I like how 4 is 4 times more than 1.
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

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Again, quotes or it didn't happen. We had a discussion in her subforum a few weeks ago how her peak level of play could still potentially be ahead of her. "Potentially" being the key word -- none of us are claiming we know for sure what will happen, and it could be that what you predict turns out to be true. But there's nothing guaranteed that Vika will improve more than Maria in the future, just as it turns out it wasn't guaranteed that Wozniacki's peak was ahead of her despite your hysterical insistences one bandwagon ago.
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

Peak Maria doesn't exist in this age and time. You will never see Peak Martha vs Peak Vika ever.

Peak Martha at 2006 US Open would wipe the floor of any of the Peak Vikas we've seen so far though. Hard to do "peak vs peak" when both players aren't even anywhere near close to retiring.
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Again, quotes or it didn't happen. We had a discussion in her subforum a few weeks ago how her peak level of play could still potentially be ahead of her. "Potentially" being the key word -- none of us are claiming we know for sure what will happen, and it could be that what you predict turns out to be true. But there's nothing guaranteed that Vika will improve more than Maria in the future, just as it turns out it wasn't guaranteed that Wozniacki's peak was ahead of her despite your hysterical insistences one bandwagon ago.
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

Definitely peak Maria. If 2006 USO Maria played 2012 Vika Maria would win in 2 easy sets. She beat Henin in straights and double bageled Mauresmo and they are a class above Azarenka tennis wise
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Their careers will probably end with Vika having an edge in the H2H. Numbers will speak for themselves.
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Their careers will probably end with Vika having an edge in the H2H. Numbers will speak for themselves.
Will they? Garcia Vidagany is better than Clijsters according to your logic. Preach!
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

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Will they? Garcia Vidagany is better than Clijsters according to your logic. Preach!
How about the other numbers? For instance weeks at No.1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ranked_players

Vika (age 23): 45 weeks at No.1 ( as of December 31, 2012) and counting...

Maria (age 25): 21 weeks at No.1; her longest time has been 7 weeks in a row in January-March 2007.
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

and by that logic, wozniacki's peak > azarenka's peak and venus' peak is the 2nd weakest of all former no. 1s right?

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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

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Their careers will probably end with Vika having an edge in the H2H. Numbers will speak for themselves.
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Will they? Garcia Vidagany is better than Clijsters according to your logic. Preach!
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How about the other numbers? For instance weeks at No.1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ranked_players

Vika (age 23): 45 weeks at No.1 ( as of December 31, 2012) and counting...

Maria (age 25): 21 weeks at No.1; her longest time has been 7 weeks in a row in January-March 2007.
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and by that logic, wozniacki's peak > azarenka's peak and venus' peak is the 2nd weakest of all former no. 1s right?

got it.
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

I agree, the comparison with weeks at number one really isn't particularly helpful when it comes to peak vs peak and neither is the H2H imo. That said, I don't see how the H2H between Vidagany and Clijsters can prove a point here since the H2H between Vika and Masha is based on many more matches and therefore much more significant in general (still not necessarily in a peak vs peak discussion, so please don't get me wrong here).

I just don't see the point of discussing the peak of a player who is only 23 years old and still has room for improvement in her game. As I have read in this thread, also Maria fans think it's possible that her peak is still ahead of her, so again, what's the point of this thread (or any similar thread with other players, for that matter)? Unless of course you think it's interesting to discuss and compare the highest standard of play we have seen from either player thus far but in that case I think "peak" is a very misleading term.
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and by that logic, wozniacki's peak > azarenka's peak and venus' peak is the 2nd weakest of all former no. 1s right?

got it.
I didn´t say that weeks at No.1 should be used as the only criteria when we compare players to each other. On the other hand those top 5 players who lead those statistics are: Steffi Graff (377 wks), Martina Navratilova (332 wks), Chris Evert (260 wks), Martina Hingis (209 wks) and Monica Seles (178 wks). Surely it tells something about their careers if head-to-head statistics are not enough? For some players their peak might be same as their highest WTA ranking like No. 20 or winning a big tournament once.

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