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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 10:25 AM   #31
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

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But that doesn't show that people who are pro-life are anti-woman. It shows that they are "anti-letting women do whatever they want with their bodies".
Even if it means a woman will die?!

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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 12:19 PM   #32
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But that doesn't show that people who are pro-life are anti-woman. It shows that they are "anti-letting women do whatever they want with their bodies".
I don't really see the point of distinguishing between things like "anti-gay" and "anti-letting gay people have equal rights."
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 07:40 PM   #33
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

http://www.facebook.com/events/24374...ent_mall_reply

Maybe people could join this event and attend in spirit. Think of Savita.
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 08:03 PM   #34
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

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And thus patriarchy imposes its way, which is the very root of misogyny.
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Even if it means a woman will die?!

Nice one, bro
I've never said that I'm against abortion in any case.

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I don't really see the point of distinguishing between things like "anti-gay" and "anti-letting gay people have equal rights."
I think there's a relevant difference between being against abortion and being against gay rights. Most people who are against gay rights are against them because they believe that homosexuality is immoral or deficient in some way. But those who are against abortion don't believe that being a woman is immoral or inherently deficient. They believe that there is a relevant moral issue (the life of the fetus) that is more important than a woman's right to do whatever she wants with her body.
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 08:32 PM   #35
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

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I've never said that I'm against abortion in any case.
Yet, you're defending it in a case where woman really died
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Yet, you're defending it in a case where woman really died
No, I'm not defending it.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 12:29 PM   #37
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

I'm off to the protest/vigil later. The weather's great so it should mean a good turnout.
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

This is what Irish people get for constantly voting for right-wing parties Of course neither FF/FG bothered to legislate on this issue cause they didn't give a shit.

Also if she wasn't foreign I think the reaction by politicians wouldn't be as great, because then it wouldn't have been such an international story.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 07:00 PM   #39
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

The organisers said there were 20,000+ people at the event today. They also rightly pointed out that we can't let the government think we're going to forget about this. There will be another protest on Wednesday evening. It will be the 4th in an 8 day period, I believe.

There were also protests/vigils in a number of other towns around the country.
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

Good to hear. And no, it can't be forgotten about.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #41
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

I think it was the UCD open day today as well. So everyone would have known it was going on.
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

Yeah it was, was working at that in UCD so hence didn't get into town. Glad it got good turnout.

Surely the Labour Party should be breaking their neck in government to solve this issue, or will it just be yet another failure on their part.
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Old Nov 17th, 2012, 08:42 PM   #43
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

That's what a lot of people were shouting, "Shame on Labour!"

Was the open day today for Leaving Cert students? I miss UCD I actually stopped by for a visit over the summer to remember old times...and to see the new facilities!

My photography mojo really wasn't working at all today but I got one nice, simple shot just before the vigil.


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Good to hear. And no, it can't be forgotten about.
I'm determined to keep this in my mind and close to my heart. I don't want to get distracted in the coming weeks and become preoccupied with everyday life. That's why I'm posting in this thread a lot!!
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Re: Woman in Ireland dies of septicaemia after being denied an abortion

Yeah was for LC students coming to have a look. I actually only went to Trinity, DCU and DKIT open days and then ended up in UCD The DKIT one was because my school dragged me there.
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