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View Poll Results: Whose peak is better?

Vera 86 76.11%
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 12:16 AM   #46
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

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Without Sergey: Wozniacki 6-4 7-5
With Sergey: Bepa 4-6 7-6 7-6

More like 6-1, 6-1 with Demekhine...

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With Piotr on court coaching 7-5, 6-4 Wozniacki
Without Piotr on court coaching 6-3, 6-4 Zvonareva
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 12:19 AM   #47
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

Zvonareva is in a differently league than Wozniacki. People here referring if she is mentally tough in the match, well we are talking about peaks now are we not, means she will be mentally tough in the match. Zvonareva is better than Wozniacki in all departments at peak name it and Vera is better.
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #48
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

vera and its not even close. Yeah caroline has the number one ranking but i dont read to much into that

if vera was stronger mentally she would definately have more titles and who knows she may actually have a slam.
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 12:56 AM   #49
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I also forgot this. Vera is a MUCH much better net player that Caro too. I personally don't see the variety that you all see in Caroline's game. She doesn't slice balls (intentionally during rallies, only as a response) and Vera has shown she's smart enough to hit to the FH more than the BH so the result is NID. I also think Vera does have the better serve, and furthermore that she can adjust to all surfaces better. She can increase topspin when needed to match the conditions.


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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 01:02 PM   #50
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

Vera plays Caro well. In 2010 Caro won Montreal, New haven. SF of USO, won Tokyo, Beijing, final of YEC.
The only time she didnt make the final in those 6 tournaments she lost to Vera 2010 USO SF.
In 2011 Caro won Dubai, final Doha, won IW. Her only loss was to Vera.
Caro beat Vera in finals of Montreal & Beijing.
Vera is a little like Stosur, they both have a lot of strangely weak finals. I think IW 2009 & Doha 2011 are her only titles above Tier III
But Vera knows how to play Caro, and has the variety in her game to do it, even when Caro is getting her best results
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 01:29 PM   #51
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

Peak Vera is (was) very strong, possible slam material. It never happened unfortunately.
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

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I found the thread " Peak Vikapower vs peak GoDokic, WWW? " is more exciting than this.


Having said that, although I can hardly get excited watching these 2 players playing,, Did Vera and Woz all reach their respected " peaks" around somewhere in between 09-11, where Woz were at #1, Vera reached her best at #2, and Woz owned all the Russian players with a record of 35-4 or something like that?
Peak Vikapower win with no doubt
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

Didnt Zvonareva already beat Peakniacki on Doha 2011?
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

But peak Wozniacki was something a la that match against Bartoli in Doha, where she was almost constantly on offense, and she was great at it.

I agree with moby that Woz can hit as hard as Vera. I would give edge to Woz in serve department too. However, in this match-up Vera movies the ball around better, returns better and is eager to finish off the points at the net. So I MIGHT give a slight edge to Vera overall.
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 07:57 PM   #55
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

The only way to really answer this question is to consult the facts.

Caro's peak: #1
The other girl's peak: #2

Welp. Guess that settles it then.

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Peak defense is like the fat kid is with glasses and an artifical limb. It always gets picked last; as a weapon of choice in a Peak debate.

Zvonareva has a positive H2H against Wozniacki anyway during their peak years. Only a mentally unstable person would pick the defensive player in a peak debate between two players, where the offensive player in the match-up already has the real H2H lead.
Yeah the other girl leads the H2H by one because Caro had to retire in one of the matches.

She still managed to win a couple of games in that set she was injured for though, whereas the other girl has been bageled multiple times by Caro. And that can't be attributed to mental fragility, even the most mentally weak player can win a game or two at the start of a set when there is no pressure, unless they are dominated and outclassed by their opponent throughout. A closer look at the H2H only highlights even more the fact that Caro is the better player and that she can dominate the other girl at her peak.
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 10:17 PM   #56
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

certainly not tennis, that's for sure
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Old Nov 16th, 2012, 10:44 PM   #57
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The only way to really answer this question is to consult the facts.

Caro's peak: #1
The other girl's peak: #2

Welp. Guess that settles it then.



Yeah the other girl leads the H2H by one because Caro had to retire in one of the matches.
Oh right that was the match, where Wozniacki sprained her ankle chasing down a Zvonareva dropshot. I guess if Wozniacki had the technical ability to play a dropshot she could injure players, too. Much less work than grinding for three hours.
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

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Didnt Zvonareva already beat Peakniacki on Doha 2011?
And Peakniacki beat Peakareva in the Montreal, Beijing, YEC matches in 2010. People trying to claim their matches against eachother when they were peaking as definitive proof eitherway isn't going to work: they generally split the honours in their matches at the time (oh God, those dark days when Wozniacki-Zvonareva was the best rivalry on the WTA such was the game's dire state ).

With that said, their 2010-11 matches certainly give the lie to the claim that either Wozniacki or Zvonareva severely underachieved and should've won Slams: not only were they regularly beaten comfortably whenever they played one of the genuine elite players, they didn't even have their number of their fellow non-Grand Slam champ. Whereas other "best players to never win Slams" like Jankovic or Safina reliably beat all the non-Slam champions when they were at their respective peaks.
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Re: Peak Wozniacki v. Peak Zvonereva

Where is bepamaria analisys on this?
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Oh right that was the match, where Wozniacki sprained her ankle chasing down a Zvonareva dropshot. I guess if Wozniacki had the technical ability to play a dropshot she could injure players, too. Much less work than grinding for three hours.
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