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Old Oct 24th, 2012, 11:51 PM   #676
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

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Honestly, me too.
At least it's a loss to one of the GOATS of the sport and not to Vika!
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Old Oct 24th, 2012, 11:52 PM   #677
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Why? Does the outcome of the Maria-Stosur match have any impact on the standings? I thought Maria was already guaranteed 1st place in the group no matter what...
Yep, Maria is guaranteed to win the group no matter what. The confusion comes from people mistaking the set ratio rule. That rule only comes into play if three players are tied, which is impossible at this point. (At least where Maria is concerned)

Just to confirm for anyone still in doubt:


Round Robin tie-breaking methods

The final standings of each group shall be determined by the first of the following methods that apply:

Greatest number of wins
Greatest number of matches played; or
Head-to-head results if only two players are tied, or if three players are tied then:

a If three players each have the same number of wins, a player having played less than all three matches is automatically eliminated and the player advancing to the single elimination competition is the winner of the match-up of the two remaining tied players; or
b Highest percentage of sets won; -or
c Highest percentage of games won




If Maria wins against Sam, she goes 3-0 and obviously wins the group.

If Maria loses against Sam, she holds a 2-1 record, but still wins the group, because she beat both Errani and Radwanska.

If Radwanska beats Errani, she'll be 2-1, but can't be above Maria because of tonight's win.

If Errani beats Radwasnka and Stosur, she similarly is 2-1, but can't be above Maria because of yesterdays win.

Stosur can only qualify as the runner up. To do so, she needs to win both of her games, and hope that Errani beats Radwanska. Even if Sam wins both games, she can't climb above Maria, as Maria will have played three games, Sam only two.
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Old Oct 24th, 2012, 11:52 PM   #678
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

gurls and guys i'm going to bed.
I LOVE YOU ALL, this has been an emotional rollercoaster of a night.

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Old Oct 24th, 2012, 11:53 PM   #679
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

I appologize for all my doom and gloom. But phew this was so tight.. She had some luck.. Thanks God.
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

By the way, do you guys realise that this year, Maria has gotten atleast one win over practically every active player who's been top 5 in the past 5 years? Azarenka, Radwanska, Kvitova, Clijsters, Venus, Stosur, Wozniacki, Kerber, Ivanovic, Jankovic, Petrova, Li. All she needs is to beat You Know Who here and she has pretty much the full set (or am I forgetting some?).
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She won 2 matches, Stosur can't be in the SF's cause she only plays 2 matches, Errani and Aga are already 1 down.
i think stosur still has a change to take a spot in Sf. If she wins over Errani and Maria and Radwanska lose to Errani.
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Old Oct 24th, 2012, 11:54 PM   #682
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Nope if Aga straights Errani she has to at least take a set of Stosur. She's definitely through to SF though. If Serena wins tomorrow she finishes first in her group and Maria won't be wanting to face her.
If Aga and Maria both finish 2-1, Maria still wins the group regardless of sets because she beat Aga. The set rule only comes in if there's a three way time, which is impossible, as Aga and Errani play each other, and Stosur's maximum record is 2-0. (So she can only qualify by winning twice and if Errani beats Aga)
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Old Oct 24th, 2012, 11:55 PM   #683
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By the way, do you guys realise that this year, Maria has gotten atleast one win over practically every player who's been top 5 in the past 5 years? Azarenka, Radwanska, Kvitova, Clijsters, Venus, Stosur, Wozniacki, Kerber, Ivanovic, Jankovic, Petrova, Li. All she needs is to beat You Know Who here and she has pretty much the full set.
Damn Sveta! ... Actually, when was the last time Maria played her?
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Damn Sveta! ... Actually, when was the last time Maria played her?
Thanks for clearing rules up. Cinci 2011 worthy match.
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Damn Sveta! ... Actually, when was the last time Maria played her?
Damn I forgot her. She hasn't played her since Cincy 2011. Zvonareva too. Although they've both been so inactive this year that, for the sake of this stat, I'mma count them as retired
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Old Oct 24th, 2012, 11:59 PM   #686
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If Maria wins against Sam, she goes 3-0 and obviously wins the group.

If Maria loses against Sam, she holds a 2-1 record, but still wins the group, because she beat both Errani and Radwanska.

If Radwanska beats Errani, she'll be 2-1, but can't be above Maria because of tonight's win.

If Errani beats Radwasnka and Stosur, she similarly is 2-1, but can't be above Maria because of yesterdays win.

Stosur can only qualify as the runner up. To do so, she needs to win both of her games, and hope that Errani beats Radwanska. Even if Sam wins both games, she can't climb above Maria, as Maria will have played three games, Sam only two.
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 12:02 AM   #687
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

After seeing the pic of the handshake I lost a lot of my hate for Aga, as usual after a win by Maria
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 12:13 AM   #688
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Old Oct 25th, 2012, 12:18 AM   #689
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

I was so busy with twitter that I didn't even enjoy the ace and the moment, I'll have to download the match to watch it properly
time to sleep now see ya tomorrow!:P
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