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Old Oct 15th, 2012, 11:49 AM   #166
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

She's a human being guys, things happen, people change. Who knows what is going on in her tennis life as well as personal life that could effect the way she plays. I also noticed she has been getting angrier lately on court as opposed to her usual cool persona. Of course I'm hoping she will come out firing at the YEC a la 2007 but we will see. I'm staying optimistic, theres no doubt she is capable of beating Vika, and also at least giving serena a good match.
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Old Oct 15th, 2012, 01:42 PM   #167
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I first noticed this side of Maria during her Lisicki match at the Olympics. I've never seen her so visibly angry and frustrated during a match. I just chalked it up to Maria REALLY wanting to beat Sabine badly after what happened at the Wimbledon. But, at you said, the irritaed Maria returned at the US Open. And we also saw it again in Tokyo and Beijing.
Hmmm... The Olympic Maria was totally different from Tokyo Maria and Tokyo was different from Beijing, not the same kind of frustration and not because of the same reasons. In my opinion.
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Old Oct 15th, 2012, 06:07 PM   #168
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Maybe I didn't express myself well. I think Maria slowly reached/is reaching her mental peak... There is a lot of physical and mental effort invested in her tennis since 2008... And I think she is starting to crack up slightly... She is much more expressive, gets nervous and impatient and unsatisfied more easily than before surgery... This year even more evident than before... But maybe I am wrong.. Maybe I have just forgotten how it was before...
I agree with you saying that this year she's been more nervous/expressive/unsatisfied.

What I DON'T agree with is that it necessarily has to stay that way. Players are able to work on mental blocks -- look at Federer, he was choking matches left and right for most of 2011, and then he took a couple of months off working with his coach on how to stay calm in matches, and since then he's been able to stay mentally tough enough to win 2 of 3 matches against his bogeyman Nadal and has generally held his nerve in crunch matches.

(And no, I'm not saying Maria is anywhere close to Federer in terms of tennis talent, but I DO think she's mentally tougher in general than Federer has ever been, so the analogy stands I think.)

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Besides, Vika is better than Kerber, so Kerber's match was so good to see, but it means nothing for the Maria vs. Vika matchup... In the latter Maria ends up being frustrated because Vika takes her game away from her and Maria is forced to do more even better in order to beat her and that is where the errors and impatience come in.
At the risk of sounding like a sore loser, there really is no doubt in my mind that Maria would've beaten Azarenka had she played like she did against Kerber Yes, Vika's better than Kerber, but not so much that she would've been able to hang with Maria in that form.
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Old Oct 15th, 2012, 06:54 PM   #169
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What I DON'T agree with is that it necessarily has to stay that way. ple of months off working with his coach.
That is true. I agree. We will have to wait and see.

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At the risk of sounding like a sore loser, there really is no doubt in my mind that Maria would've beaten Azarenka had she played like she did against Kerber Yes, Vika's better than Kerber, but not so much that she would've been able to hang with Maria in that form.
Um.. But the problem is that Maria doesn't play her game when playing Vika; her game is taken away from her by Vika.
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Old Oct 15th, 2012, 09:21 PM   #170
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That is true. I agree. We will have to wait and see.



Um.. But the problem is that Maria doesn't play her game when playing Vika; her game is taken away from her by Vika.
Her game isn't taken away though IMO.
I mean even from her Beijing match it was clear that whenever she blasted the ball into the corners she won a point. However, that only happened towards the end of both sets. What Maria was doing was 3/4 her shots back and force with no real angle or direction, presumably she was waiting to come in on the shorter ball but even when she got that chance she didn't come in (something that's been a big problem this year). Even though she hit some sizzlers to end those rallies 9/10 times she made the error. Instead of waiting for her chance to take a kill shot she should be blasting it CC with an angle. Because it ONLY take ONE big shot like that to end the point with Vika, especially if you hit it to her FH.

Oh, and BH DTL is essential also. Plus the serve, I mean she served like Vika in Beijing, flop pace with mediocre placement.
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Old Oct 15th, 2012, 09:54 PM   #171
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Um.. But the problem is that Maria doesn't play her game when playing Vika; her game is taken away from her by Vika.
I agree on this, when she plays Vika she somehow makes a lot of UE mainly because of Vika's game rather than herself.
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Old Oct 16th, 2012, 02:12 AM   #172
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I wish I had video editing skills to transform this



into the YEC trailer

But I tried with a pic



what do you think? I need to complete it
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Old Oct 16th, 2012, 08:58 AM   #173
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Maria is coming to Istanbul today
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Old Oct 16th, 2012, 08:07 PM   #174
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I wish I had video editing skills to transform this



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But I tried with a pic


what do you think? I need to complete it
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Old Oct 16th, 2012, 08:42 PM   #175
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Those words sounded weird to me too, I just copied the last part of the video
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

I think Maria has a good chance to beat Serena here, because the times Serena has come to the Y.E.C with no preparation she doesn't do we'll.
Then again I feel like whenever Maria has a chance to beat Serena something always comes up to stop it. Like at the AO this year and at Rome and RG
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Old Oct 17th, 2012, 02:33 PM   #177
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

I'll miss it. Every single match of this tournament to study all day (and night) long. I'll probably fail most of my exams nontheless
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Re: YEC 2012 iSTANBUL Mission: Beat Vika/Rena, humiliate Haga and win the title.

What if Sasha comes to watch her play
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What if Sasha comes to watch her play
I doubt it..it probably would be too awkward but I was also thinking about this.
Do you think this would distract her if it was to happen?
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Old Oct 17th, 2012, 05:11 PM   #180
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What if Sasha comes to watch her play
Oh, do not worry. The woman broke his heart, he won't come to watch her free-willingly. Unless they have settled things,which I think is impossible. The city might have some sentimental value for her,but she is able to cope with that + her mum is with her.
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