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Old Oct 8th, 2012, 11:29 PM   #46
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Re: WTA Championships 2012 iStanbul Mission: Win the title by not facing Rena/Vika

I am so sorry but I wouldn't blame Hogstedt... In my opinon he actually brought some freshness into her mental state... She was stagnating in 2010. I am glad she has a coach like Thomas, he believes in her endlessly. And goes through everything with her. And is prepared to work with her.
She is better on clay, yes, but all in all she seems kind of fragile to me, still... And I have a feeling she can fall appart any time. Like a house of cards. 2012 has been one of her best years, if not best... Azarenka has improved dramatically, Serena will always be an unclimbable mountain for her... And this year next to Serena and Vichka is Maria... Unfortunately she has become a mental-midget against Vichka.. Due to Vichka's improved movement, mentality, fitness (read game) and due to herself (her mindset since AO).
Maria will never be the old player she was... And this I think is actually close to the maximum she can give..

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So true! Moreover, there's no net game. She doesn't attack the net anymore. She just plants her feet on the baseline and stays there. One more thing: after every serve she lands two metres inside the baseline.. how can you possibly hit Vika's deep ROS back if it always gets past you?
100 coaches cannot help you if you are not willing / don't know how to do it. She practices net game, yet she never plays it in matches and when she does she fails... There is a part of Maria's mind also involved in it. I think she is too insecure to attack the net. In the past, when she was full of confidence, like that AO 2008, she did it great. But then again, she is bad at moving forward-backward, and there are a lot of great defenders now..
And yes, well, that is Vichka's specialty against Maria, taking the ball early and deep, not giving her any time at all to react. Maria won't change her landing because of Vichka now, and Maria's reaction time is longer than Vichka's... Serena outpowers/outserves Vichka, Maria can't... So she will always be in the loosing position... Unless Vichka becomes a mental midget again, like she was in the past..

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Maybe not in time for the YEC, but I believe Kvitova will be back to top 3 form soon. And that will be another huge problem for Maria in 2013 and beyond, to go along with her mental blocks with Serena and Vika.
Honestly? I think, too, that sooner or later Petra will rise up again... I do not want to sound pessimistic, but I do expect an improvement to Petra, she will overcome her growing pains... While Maria... Well she is not younger day by day... + her game does not have varitey, never did in full and it won't have... Changing it now would ruin her confidence... We will see how long she'll be able to keep it up. I am a bit afraid for 2013...
So I think I should cherish what I get from her this year, despite her constantly loosing to Vichka.
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Old Oct 9th, 2012, 02:33 AM   #47
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Re: WTA Championships 2012 iStanbul Mission: Win the title by not facing Rena/Vika

Will Serena be a true vulture and just swoop in and take this title after sitting on her couch since the US Open, while the other ladies were playing their guts out in Asia?

I hate to think so, but whatever Serena wants, Serena gets. And I honestly can't see this championship final being between anyone other than Serena and Vika. They've been light years ahead of everyone this season. I can hope for a Maria miracle of her at least getting to the title match. I'll still be nervous and rooting for her to the bitter end. But, then again, do I really want to experience ANOTHER finals loss in 2012? In a sick way, it would be an appropriate finish to Maria's year.
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Re: WTA Championships 2012 iStanbul Mission: Win the title by not facing Rena/Vika

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Will Serena be a true vulture and just swoop in and take this title after sitting on her couch since the US Open, while the other ladies were playing their guts out in Asia?

I hate to think so, but whatever Serena wants, Serena gets. And I honestly can't see this championship final being between anyone other than Serena and Vika. They've been light years ahead of everyone this season. I can hope for a Maria miracle of her at least getting to the title match. I'll still be nervous and rooting for her to the bitter end. But, then again, do I really want to experience ANOTHER finals loss in 2012? In a sick way, it would be an appropriate finish to Maria's year.
Yes,but I'd like to think it won't be that way for too much longer. Surely somewhere along the line Kvitova or Azarenka can turn that 7-6,6-3 loss into a 7-6,6-3 win
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I am so sorry but I wouldn't blame Hogstedt... In my opinon he actually brought some freshness into her mental state... She was stagnating in 2010. I am glad she has a coach like Thomas, he believes in her endlessly. And goes through everything with her. And is prepared to work with her.
She is better on clay, yes, but all in all she seems kind of fragile to me, still... And I have a feeling she can fall appart any time. Like a house of cards. 2012 has been one of her best years, if not best... Azarenka has improved dramatically, Serena will always be an unclimbable mountain for her... And this year next to Serena and Vichka is Maria... Unfortunately she has become a mental-midget against Vichka.. Due to Vichka's improved movement, mentality, fitness (read game) and due to herself (her mindset since AO).
Maria will never be the old player she was... And this I think is actually close to the maximum she can give..



100 coaches cannot help you if you are not willing / don't know how to do it. She practices net game, yet she never plays it in matches and when she does she fails... There is a part of Maria's mind also involved in it. I think she is too insecure to attack the net. In the past, when she was full of confidence, like that AO 2008, she did it great. But then again, she is bad at moving forward-backward, and there are a lot of great defenders now..
And yes, well, that is Vichka's specialty against Maria, taking the ball early and deep, not giving her any time at all to react. Maria won't change her landing because of Vichka now, and Maria's reaction time is longer than Vichka's... Serena outpowers/outserves Vichka, Maria can't... So she will always be in the loosing position... Unless Vichka becomes a mental midget again, like she was in the past..



Honestly? I think, too, that sooner or later Petra will rise up again... I do not want to sound pessimistic, but I do expect an improvement to Petra, she will overcome her growing pains... While Maria... Well she is not younger day by day... + her game does not have varitey, never did in full and it won't have... Changing it now would ruin her confidence... We will see how long she'll be able to keep it up. I am a bit afraid for 2013...
So I think I should cherish what I get from her this year, despite her constantly loosing to Vichka.
There is a lot of truth in this but the blockage to me seems to be on HC and solely on HC even in US when she took the lead, had game points to go 2-0 in the second set she blew them away and then she only won 1 game in that second set.
Maria doesn't seem to believe in her chances on HC anymore and that sucks but after all those finals lost on HC it's obvious that her mind is quite fucked up. There are just too many losses in finals on HC this year its beyond pathetic.
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I know, but I said 'at least'

Please play like it's YEC 07 all over again She used to do so well here since 04 to 07, bar last year! It's about time
IKR. but look at the USO 2012, wasn´t in SF from 2006, so hopefully she will do the same in Istanbul
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Re: YEC 2012 iStanbul Mission: Beat Vika and Serena on the way to the title.

What's up with all the moaning about the thread title. I wrote that in a moment of anger Changed it now .
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Re: YEC 2012 iStanbul Mission: Beat Vika and Serena on the way to the title.

I want her to thrash them so bad
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the new title reminds me of the Beijing one
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Re: YEC 2012 iStanbul Mission: Beat Vika and Serena on the way to the title.

Maria needs to serve well when faces Serena and Azarenka
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Btw, I liked the previous title better.
It was more realistic.
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Re: YEC 2012 iStanbul Mission: Beat Vika and Serena on the way to the title.

I just hope Maria plays a good tournament and is able to give all she's got to win it. It is her last chance to win a HC tournament in 2012 (she always won at least one each year since 2003) and to finish the year at n. 1. She will need her best game and a bit of luck.

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Btw, I liked the previous title better.
It was more realistic.
I think the title would be Incredible year, No pressure Let's go Pova or something like that
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Get RADWANSKA in Maria's group or else....
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