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Oct 8th, 2012, 02:28 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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I agree with you that there are a lot of other factors involved. I'm just saying that to beat Azarenka on hardcourts, in her current form, she needs to have a 'good day' similar to that when she played Kerber - low unforced errors, painting lines, hitting with consistent depth. She knows it, Thomas evidently told her to go and try and hit through Azarenka. It's a low percentage, high-risk gameplan with potential reward - that's just the fact of the matter at the moment. Wouldn't have always been the case but it's 2012.... 
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So basically she has to go for Gajdosova-like "spray and pray" brainless ballbashing rather than try to develop a game(plan) that could give her a higher probability of success vs Azarenka?
Is that really how great players should approach their matches?
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Oct 8th, 2012, 02:33 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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So basically she has to go for Gajdosova-like "spray and pray" brainless ballbashing rather than try to develop a game(plan) that could give her a higher probability of success vs Azarenka?
Is that really how great players should approach their matches?
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Gajdosova-like is an exaggeration if ever there were one, both are entirely different calibers of players.
It certainly seems as though, after watching their past matches, that Maria's gameplan against Azarenka on hardcourts is to try and hit through her. I don't think Maria can out-rally her at the moment, nor do I think she should try. I think on clay her weight and depth of shot is superior - that was evident in Stuttgart.
It's also a legitimate tactic and I think to an extent the right one on this surface. As I have said heaps of times before, it's high risk, high reward but incredibly low percentage. There will be times that it will work.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 02:37 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Wow this is such a sad display for some Maria fans.
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It makes me laugh when posters like you act like they're so above it all. 
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Oct 8th, 2012, 02:38 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
Omg have you guys no lives at all? This thread has been jumping in page numbers with every visit to this place. Vika doesn't hate Maria.
Case-fricken-closed. Go try and feed off some other fictitious shit that you all want to be so desperately true.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 02:45 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Omg have you guys no lives at all? This thread has been jumping in page numbers with every visit to this place. Vika doesn't hate Maria.
Case-fricken-closed. Go try and feed off some other fictitious shit that you all want to be so desperately true.
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Tell that to your Pova mates. They are the only ones keep bumping this thread. 
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Oct 8th, 2012, 02:48 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Tell that to your Pova mates. They are the only ones keep bumping this thread. 
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I don't care who's bumping it, the fact is, it's not like one person is having a conversation with themselves...and don't act like every fan base is always 100% agreeing with everything that one or two people are saying.
Seriously.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 02:49 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Originally Posted by Lachy
Gajdosova-like is an exaggeration if ever there were one, both are entirely different calibers of players.
It certainly seems as though, after watching their past matches, that Maria's gameplan against Azarenka on hardcourts is to try and hit through her. I don't think Maria can out-rally her at the moment, nor do I think she should try. I think on clay her weight and depth of shot is superior - that was evident in Stuttgart.
It's also a legitimate tactic and I think to an extent the right one on this surface. As I have said heaps of times before, it's high risk, high reward but incredibly low percentage. There will be times that it will work.
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There's nothing "high reward" about low percentage tennis. You don't get 10 points for hitting a winner on the line. If anything since that kind of tennis supposedly only allows her to win extremely rarely, it's a low reward tennis since she'll win very few finals against Azarenka (and therefore very few titles) if she doesn't change something in this match-up.
Unless, of course, she wants to be remembered as that girl who was banging at the doors very often but rarely* got in, so to speak.
*and never in Miami
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Oct 8th, 2012, 02:54 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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There's nothing "high reward" about low percentage tennis. You don't get 10 points for hitting a winner on the line. If anything since that kind of tennis supposedly only allows her to win extremely rarely, it's a low reward tennis since she'll win very few finals against Azarenka (and therefore very few titles) if she doesn't change something in this match-up.
Unless, of course, she wants to be remembered as that girl who was banging at the doors very often but rarely* got in, so to speak.
*and never in Miami
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What are you suggesting then? I don't see the problem with going for the lines and trying to play more aggressive in this match-up. It's not like she is/has been trying to hit ridiculous winners from all parts of the court. However, when there is the slightest glimpse of a shorter ball, it needs to be put away. Against others she can afford to place the ball and maneuver them around - in this match-up at the moment...not so much.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 03:04 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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It makes me laugh when posters like you act like they're so above it all. 
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He is right. Maria and Vika fans are not good enough to troll GM.
Serena/Venus/Henin fanwars were funnier and much better. AcesHigh used to be involved in these fanwars.  We were an almighty team 
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Oct 8th, 2012, 03:08 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
"such a great battle against such a champion! this is what i wake up every morning for…thanks for the support #NYC #USOpen"
Vika after her victory over Maria at the USO.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 03:09 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
Lachy giving life with each of his posts, I wish Pova would lose more often. 
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Oct 8th, 2012, 03:09 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Originally Posted by Matías.
Lachy giving life with each of his posts, I hope Pova would lose more often. 
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Careful, he might crack after the next one.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 03:12 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Lachy giving life with each of his posts, I wish Pova would lose more often. 
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I'm glad they help but hopefully you have other things in your day to look forward to 
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Oct 8th, 2012, 03:12 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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What are you suggesting then? I don't see the problem with going for the lines and trying to play more aggressive in this match-up. It's not like she is/has been trying to hit ridiculous winners from all parts of the court. However, when there is the slightest glimpse of a shorter ball, it needs to be put away. Against others she can afford to place the ball and maneuver them around - in this match-up at the moment...not so much.
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I don't know, try to finish the points at the net? Ballbashing from the baseline is clearly not working, so she should try something else.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 03:13 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
Sharapova is not a tactical player,though. lol.
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