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Oct 8th, 2012, 10:54 AM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Originally Posted by Lachy
What the fck? Based on what? This is peak Vika right now and far from peak Maria. Like fck right off with that and come back when Vika has 4 slams (let alone the career grand slam).
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I meant the greater player at the moment, overall in terms of achievement and peak Maria probably wins.
Calm your farm.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 10:57 AM
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#227
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Why ? Aselto is right, when Maria beat Henin, Justine was certainly not at her peak.
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especially the one who reached all Finals(win FO, was as close to Wimbledon title ) in 2006 and won YEC
  
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Oct 8th, 2012, 10:59 AM
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#228
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Originally Posted by Lachy
So what  nor has Maria ever been when she's played Azarenka. Still doesn't stop people from professing that the other player is/was better and their opponent was at their supposed 'peak.'
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I never claimed it, so I am not being a hypocrite.
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as close to Wimbledon as Roddick?  Funniest joke of the week.
I mean, Justine nearly lost to Jankovic in the US Open 2006. Shame really.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 11:12 AM
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#229
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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I never claimed it, so I am not being a hypocrite.
as close to Wimbledon as Roddick?  Funniest joke of the week.
I mean, Justine nearly lost to Jankovic in the US Open 2006. Shame really.
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If Justine wasn't feeling well in US final she would have retired, we all know that. 
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Oct 8th, 2012, 11:18 AM
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#230
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Originally Posted by doomsday
Like I said you were probably too young to remember.
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You can check how old I am in my profile. I definitely can look back to 2006 or even a bit earlier for that matter.
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Originally Posted by Lachy
So what  nor has Maria ever been when she's played Azarenka. Still doesn't stop people from professing that the other player is/was better and their opponent was at their supposed 'peak.'
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You're the one who said Vika has been dominant only because she didn't play pre-surgery Sharapova, so it's not like you didn't do what you're accusing other people of.
Fact of the matter is, Sharapova has done well to come back almost to the very top, but there are still 2 better players above her and it's not like those 2 players don't have their own struggles either (particularly the older one). It's really quite simple like that. 
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Oct 8th, 2012, 11:19 AM
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#231
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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If Justine wasn't feeling well in US final she would have retired, we all know that. 
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She retired only like 4-5 times in her career 
Plus, Amélie was her BFF, Justine was so nice she couldn't wait anymore to gift Amélie her first slam  How nice. Too bad Justine was not as kind with Maria, even if she was on her deathbed, she would still go on the court to try defeating Maria  No one likes Maria 
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Oct 8th, 2012, 11:20 AM
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#232
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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You can check how old I am in my profile. I definitely can look back to 2006 or even a bit earlier for that matter.
You're the one who said Vika has been dominant only because she didn't play pre-surgery Sharapova, so it's not like you didn't do what you're accusing other people of.
Fact of the matter is, Sharapova has done well to come back almost to the very top, but there are still 2 better players above her and it's not like those 2 players don't have their own struggles either (particularly the older one). It's really quite simple like that. 
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Nah, you must have disabled your birthday date only to yourself 
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Oct 8th, 2012, 11:20 AM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Originally Posted by debby
I never claimed it, so I am not being a hypocrite.
as close to Wimbledon as Roddick?  Funniest joke of the week.
I mean, Justine nearly lost to Jankovic in the US Open 2006. Shame really.
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Empress deserved that match so much 
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Oct 8th, 2012, 11:20 AM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
I'm 25.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 11:25 AM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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I'm 25.
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Oh God. 25 and you're still thinking about time machine 
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Oct 8th, 2012, 11:32 AM
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#236
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Oh God. 25 and you're still thinking about time machine 
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I don't think it's physically possible to build on (neither do I believe in faster than light travel for that matter). But it's a beautiful concept in itself and I was talking about hypothetical situation anyway.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 11:38 AM
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#237
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Originally Posted by serbian_siren
Empress deserved that match so much 
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No.
Such a legend should never be beaten by a peasant like Jankovic. (I like Jaja, I am just trolling  )
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I'm 25.
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Ohhh, like Doomsday !
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Oh God. 25 and you're still thinking about time machine 
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Please, a time machine would be amazing.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 12:17 PM
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Originally Posted by aselto
You can check how old I am in my profile. I definitely can look back to 2006 or even a bit earlier for that matter.
You're the one who said Vika has been dominant only because she didn't play pre-surgery Sharapova, so it's not like you didn't do what you're accusing other people of.
Fact of the matter is, Sharapova has done well to come back almost to the very top, but there are still 2 better players above her and it's not like those 2 players don't have their own struggles either (particularly the older one). It's really quite simple like that. 
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I never said that so stop misquoting me. I said that I don't believe Azarenka has ever played Maria at her peak (which I believe was 2006 and 2008 to date). Their first meeting was in 2007 and their next was in 2009. We are certainly witnessing Azarenka's peak to date this season. I don't know who would have won if both were at their peaks but let's not pretend that Maria, despite being at a really high level, is playing the best she has in her career right now.
For those, and there are quite a handful, making bombard assumptions that Azarenka is > Maria based on their matches this season - ridiculous.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 12:38 PM
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#239
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Originally Posted by Lachy
I never said that so stop misquoting me. I said that I don't believe Azarenka has ever played Maria at her peak (which I believe was 2006 and 2008 to date). Their first meeting was in 2007 and their next was in 2009. We are certainly witnessing Azarenka's peak to date this season. I don't know who would have won if both were at their peaks but let's not pretend that Maria, despite being at a really high level, is playing the best she has in her career right now.
For those, and there are quite a handful, making bombard assumptions that Azarenka is > Maria based on their matches this season - ridiculous.
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If Azarenka was playing worse than she has been playing this year but well enough to reach all those matches against Sharapova and Sharapova was playing as well as she has and instead being 1-4 she would be 5-0, than everybody would say that Sharapova was in the form of her life and playing better than ever. It's all very relative.
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Oct 8th, 2012, 12:45 PM
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#240
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Re: Why does Vika hate Maria so much?
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Originally Posted by aselto
If Azarenka was playing worse than she has been playing this year but well enough to reach all those matches against Sharapova and Sharapova was playing as well as she has and instead being 1-4 she would be 5-0, than everybody would say that Sharapova was in the form of her life and playing better than ever. It's all very relative.
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Not necessarily as you're basing form on that one match-up. Just watching their matches over the course of the entire year is telling enough.
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