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Old Oct 6th, 2012, 01:20 AM   #31
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Re: Rosebud - Rosie Casals

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I remember Bud Collins in the commentary booth once referring to Rosebud as the greatest shotmaker women's tennis had ever seen. Dick "Oh, my!" Enberg was really taken aback by Collins' claim and seemed to have no idea what being a shotmaker meant. He thought that Collins was claiming that Casals had better groundstrokes than any other woman player in history.
Rosie was, indeed, a great shotmaker. I was at that Forest Hills match in which she lost to Bueno in 3 sets. It was one of the finest women's matches I ever saw. Both players had great all-court games and could hit with power and finesse.
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Old Oct 6th, 2012, 02:40 PM   #32
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Re: Rosebud - Rosie Casals

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Rosie was, indeed, a great shotmaker. I was at that Forest Hills match in which she lost to Bueno in 3 sets. It was one of the finest women's matches I ever saw. Both players had great all-court games and could hit with power and finesse.
Lucky you Thrust! What was it like to watch tennis at Forest Hills? I love some of the all court tennis seen in the old days on grass.

I wonder if she had a singles slam in her.

I've seen various reasons. Some cite her height. At 5' 2 and half inches (and Rosie liked to emphsize that half!) she was a good 2 inches shorter than King, for instance. Others cited her friendship with Billie Jean. King herself saluted Rosie's shotmaking but wrote she never worked hard enough for it.

Why, in your view, was Rosie never destined to win a slam?
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Old Oct 8th, 2012, 10:40 PM   #33
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Re: Rosebud - Rosie Casals

Casals played in an era of Court, King, Evert, Navratilova, Goolagong and behind them Jones, Wade, Richey, and then behind them other similarily dangerous players to herself like Stove, Barker, Turnbull, Morozova, Melville. She was good but in that era it would be pretty much impossible to see her winning a slam. Her best opportunity was probably the 70 or 71 U.S Open since there was less depth briefly then, and she only needed one really big win, the finals each time. She folded in the 3rd set in 1970 with a bunch of stupid errors even though Court was clearly nervous about the prospect of the Grand Slam and not at her domineering best, and in 1971 she should have won the 2nd set anyway.
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Re: Rosebud - Rosie Casals

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Lucky you Thrust! What was it like to watch tennis at Forest Hills? I love some of the all court tennis seen in the old days on grass.

I wonder if she had a singles slam in her.

I've seen various reasons. Some cite her height. At 5' 2 and half inches (and Rosie liked to emphsize that half!) she was a good 2 inches shorter than King, for instance. Others cited her friendship with Billie Jean. King herself saluted Rosie's shotmaking but wrote she never worked hard enough for it.

Why, in your view, was Rosie never destined to win a slam?
Forest Hills was great in those days, because it was easy to get tickets. One could roam around from stadium to other courts easily as the place was rarely packed, especially in the early rounds. I think Rosie's main reason for not winning a slam was mental. She had such, perhaps too much, a variety of shots which caused her to choose the wrong ones in a tight situation. I suppose BJK knows best but I think Rosie did work hard enough, but just didn't have the physical and mental stamina to beat several top players consecutively, which is what is needed in order to win a slam.
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