cxfhserdzrhhw5yuwhs4e5rusxtudrhj - Page 26 - TennisForum.com
TennisForum.com   Wagerline.com MensTennisForums.com TennisUniverse.com
TennisForum.com is the premier Women's Tennis forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.Please Register - It's Free!
Closed Thread

Old Oct 5th, 2012, 04:11 PM   #376
country flag Asta
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 95
Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cehowardrx7 View Post

Also, the only reason this subject comes up is because Graf's fan want to tout her 22 slam count record. If they don't do that, this would never be mentioned.
Thnx for the answer,appreciate it,but as somebody asked before why do you think Graf is always generally voted the greatest if things stand as you say?

What do you think is the reason for that?

Last edited by Asta : Oct 5th, 2012 at 04:21 PM.
Asta is offline View My Blog!  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old Oct 5th, 2012, 11:07 PM   #377
country flag Anabelcroft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,768
Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asta View Post
Thnx for the answer,appreciate it,but as somebody asked before why do you think Graf is always generally voted the greatest if things stand as you say?

What do you think is the reason for that?
Ohhh,you have just asked a forbidden question

He just doesn't know what to say as every possible answer is for him a defeat!

He is not called ceh-coward-rx7 for nothing
Anabelcroft is offline View My Blog!  
Old Oct 6th, 2012, 01:00 AM   #378
country flag cehowardrx7
73,Old,Dirty,&Fast
 
cehowardrx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,591
cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asta View Post
Thnx for the answer,appreciate it,but as somebody asked before why do you think Graf is always generally voted the greatest if things stand as you say?

What do you think is the reason for that?
That person that asked that question and tries to used the online states as solid evidence, is a graf-tard. So, ARE all the people(graf fans) voting in the onine stats.

I am going to ask you a counter question. Why is it that this always comes up when discussing Graf's record, mainly her slam record?

What I say, doesn't count. What history says, counts. It is in history what happened and it will always be mentioned when Graf is mentioned for greatness.
__________________

73,old, fast, and dirty..My daily warm up: http://www.cehoward.net/stclock.wmv / http://www.cehoward.net/situps1.AVI
Coming down from 3 miles up.. http://www.cehoward.net/188.jpg
My daily commuter motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/pretty4.JPG
My roadrace motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/630-P.jpg

Last edited by cehowardrx7 : Oct 6th, 2012 at 10:37 PM.
cehowardrx7 is online now View My Blog!  
Old Oct 6th, 2012, 08:08 AM   #379
country flag Asta
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 95
Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cehowardrx7 View Post
That person that asked that question and tries to used the online states as solid evidence, is a graf-tard. So, all all the people voting in the onine stats.

I am going to ask you a counter question. Why is it that this always comes up when discussing Graf's record, mainly her slam record?

What I say, doesn't count. What history says, counts. It is in history what happened and it will always be mentioned when Graf is mentioned for greatness.
Thank you Ceh

Imo,Graf's Slam record is not the only reason,as Court has more,but the combination of other records as we have had the chance to see them here such as weeks at number 1,that elusive Golden Slam,H2H against other major opponents and other records that obviously outshine others.

I must say that even when you vote online,you can vote for every player suggested as you have a free choice and as we have seen from posted links Graf is always voted on top,either here or on that Australian Open poll posted above.

On the contrary,tennis-magazine did not vote online,as only experts voted,but the result is the same as Graf is the highest placed woman on that list.

Is it a coincidence that experts pick is the same as online voted pick?
Asta is offline View My Blog!  
Old Oct 6th, 2012, 06:40 PM   #380
country flag Anabelcroft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,768
Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cehowardrx7 View Post
That person that asked that question is a graf-tard.
And you are not a Tard?

Even if I am,is there anything wrong with it?
Anabelcroft is offline View My Blog!  
Old Oct 6th, 2012, 06:49 PM   #381
country flag Anabelcroft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,768
Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cehowardrx7 View Post
That person that asked that question and tries to used the online states as solid evidence, is a graf-tard. So, all all the people voting in the online stats.
I was just asking you why is she voted always the greatest?What is the reason and as fellow member said it's not everything online,as you wish to present just to find a virtual reason why it should not be trusted?

But to no avail...as it seems nobody listens to your blabbing and the voters proved you wrong
Anabelcroft is offline View My Blog!  
Old Oct 6th, 2012, 09:18 PM   #382
country flag Marc23
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 325
Marc23 is a name known to all Marc23 is a name known to all Marc23 is a name known to all Marc23 is a name known to all Marc23 is a name known to all Marc23 is a name known to all Marc23 is a name known to all Marc23 is a name known to all Marc23 is a name known to all Marc23 is a name known to all Marc23 is a name known to all
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

I just don't see how can anyone dispute Graf's greatness with or without loving her as a player

some things are just obvious,proven and nobody can dispute that.
Marc23 is offline View My Blog!  
Old Oct 6th, 2012, 10:47 PM   #383
country flag cehowardrx7
73,Old,Dirty,&Fast
 
cehowardrx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,591
cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asta View Post
Thank you Ceh :
My pleasure!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asta View Post
Is it a coincidence that experts pick is the same as online voted pick?
That is an easy one to answer and I will ask you a counter question too. On the experts picks, they could be just looking at the tennis-side, and not looking at the criminal-justice side. Yes, there is a criminal-justice side associated with Graf's record, because a criminal act was done for the sole purpose of advancing Graf in a sporting event.

My counter question is this, why do you think this matter comes up EVERYTIME Graf's record is mentioned, questioned, and talk about?

Nothing like this surfaces when other player's records are talked about. Maybe they talk about the competition was weak, strong, and/or not that same, but never do they say "tainted" and/or "artiesk" associated with other player's record.
__________________

73,old, fast, and dirty..My daily warm up: http://www.cehoward.net/stclock.wmv / http://www.cehoward.net/situps1.AVI
Coming down from 3 miles up.. http://www.cehoward.net/188.jpg
My daily commuter motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/pretty4.JPG
My roadrace motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/630-P.jpg
cehowardrx7 is online now View My Blog!  
Old Oct 6th, 2012, 10:52 PM   #384
country flag cehowardrx7
73,Old,Dirty,&Fast
 
cehowardrx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,591
cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc23 View Post
I just don't see how can anyone dispute Graf's greatness with or without loving her as a player

some things are just obvious,proven and nobody can dispute that.
Marc, here "greatness" is not in question, her "slam count" is tainted, not her "greatness"..
__________________

73,old, fast, and dirty..My daily warm up: http://www.cehoward.net/stclock.wmv / http://www.cehoward.net/situps1.AVI
Coming down from 3 miles up.. http://www.cehoward.net/188.jpg
My daily commuter motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/pretty4.JPG
My roadrace motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/630-P.jpg
cehowardrx7 is online now View My Blog!  
Old Oct 6th, 2012, 10:55 PM   #385
country flag cehowardrx7
73,Old,Dirty,&Fast
 
cehowardrx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,591
cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anabelcroft View Post
I was just asking you why is she voted always the greatest?What is the reason and as fellow member said it's not everything online,as you wish to present just to find a virtual reason why it should not be trusted?

But to no avail...as it seems nobody listens to your blabbing and the voters proved you wrong
Tell you what Anabelcroft, go take your "Great Graf Slam Count Record" to any tennis forum discussion sites, and post it, and see what you get!!
__________________

73,old, fast, and dirty..My daily warm up: http://www.cehoward.net/stclock.wmv / http://www.cehoward.net/situps1.AVI
Coming down from 3 miles up.. http://www.cehoward.net/188.jpg
My daily commuter motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/pretty4.JPG
My roadrace motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/630-P.jpg
cehowardrx7 is online now View My Blog!  
Old Oct 6th, 2012, 10:56 PM   #386
country flag cehowardrx7
73,Old,Dirty,&Fast
 
cehowardrx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,591
cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anabelcroft View Post
And you are not a Tard?

Even if I am,is there anything wrong with it?
No, I am a dude.. You wanna pic??
__________________

73,old, fast, and dirty..My daily warm up: http://www.cehoward.net/stclock.wmv / http://www.cehoward.net/situps1.AVI
Coming down from 3 miles up.. http://www.cehoward.net/188.jpg
My daily commuter motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/pretty4.JPG
My roadrace motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/630-P.jpg
cehowardrx7 is online now View My Blog!  
Old Oct 7th, 2012, 04:26 AM   #387
country flag Anabelcroft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,768
Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cehowardrx7 View Post
Tell you what Anabelcroft, go take your "Great Graf Slam Count Record" to any tennis forum discussion sites, and post it, and see what you get!!
I already saw when you posted the same-a moderator deleted your post

That's what others think about it!
Anabelcroft is offline View My Blog!  
Old Oct 7th, 2012, 04:27 AM   #388
country flag Anabelcroft
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,768
Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future Anabelcroft has a brilliant future
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cehowardrx7 View Post
No, I am a dude.. You wanna pic??
Ok,a tard dude

Please don't-I am not interested in grandpas!

Last edited by Anabelcroft : Oct 7th, 2012 at 03:39 PM.
Anabelcroft is offline View My Blog!  
Old Oct 7th, 2012, 03:27 PM   #389
country flag Asta
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 95
Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice Asta is just really nice
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cehowardrx7 View Post
My pleasure!!



That is an easy one to answer and I will ask you a counter question too. On the experts picks, they could be just looking at the tennis-side
If you have seen the list you would notice that they didn't.Federer is first on the list and only tennis-wise compared to Graf he has less Grand Slams titles,less weeks at number 1,less year end number 1,has never won Olympic singles gold,not to mention so called Golden Slam,losing H2H against his close rivals and so on.

So,they didn't look just tennis-wise as you say.
Asta is offline View My Blog!  
Old Oct 7th, 2012, 03:52 PM   #390
country flag cehowardrx7
73,Old,Dirty,&Fast
 
cehowardrx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,591
cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute cehowardrx7 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Why is Graf overlooked?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anabelcroft View Post
I already saw when you posted the same-a moderator deleted your post

That's what others think about it!
Not only that one, they deleting all my post I start!!

Senior citizen are SUPPOSED to get a little respect!!
__________________

73,old, fast, and dirty..My daily warm up: http://www.cehoward.net/stclock.wmv / http://www.cehoward.net/situps1.AVI
Coming down from 3 miles up.. http://www.cehoward.net/188.jpg
My daily commuter motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/pretty4.JPG
My roadrace motorcycle: http://www.cehoward.net/630-P.jpg
cehowardrx7 is online now View My Blog!  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios