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Old Oct 5th, 2012, 09:53 AM   #31
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Re: Curse of Indian Wells

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So your saying Azarenka, Henin, Clijsters, Sharapova are B-level winners.

Uhhm, Interesting.
15 almost equals 1 +7 +4 +4

Nah, just saying that some of the names that have won at IW, certainly in the period that Serena was dominating Miami..were clearly B-level, no?!
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Old Aug 22nd, 2013, 08:22 AM   #32
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Re: Curse of Indian Wells

People still not buying the curse of Indian Wells???

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B-level...
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Old Aug 22nd, 2013, 08:55 AM   #34
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Your attempt seems contrived (on one hand - for some players - you're focusing on short term temporary issues - on the other hand for other players you're randomly focusing on their entire career after winning IW).

Two can play that game on almost any tournament.

For example Miami:

-2002-2004, 2007-2008 winner Serena = loses a sister in a random shootout, mysteriously steps on a broken glass and gets injured
-2005 winner Kim = is the same as that year's IW winner so she was already cursed according to you
-2006 winner Kuzzy = her career is in the toilet (much worse than Dani's)
-2009 winner Vika = didnt' win any thing else (just like 2012)
-2010 winner Kim = lost to the world no. 258 at the start of the clay season (the rest of the clay season is dumped after that)
-2011 winner Vika = starts fainting multiples of times that year
-2012 winner Aga = loses Tokyo/Beijing and is injured

What about Serena in 2013? Looks like there's no Miami curse.

Who wants to win Indian Wells MM anyway.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2013, 09:47 AM   #35
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Re: Curse of Indian Wells

There's no curse for Miami...when Serena won FIFTEEN majors since she dropped IW and made Miami her tournament of choice.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2013, 10:01 AM   #36
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2012- Vika wins IW as part of a 26 win run to kick off the year. She has not won a tournament since. Reaches USO final, has successful Olympics, wins AO.
2011- Caro wins IW coming off her best run of form (winning 5 P5/PMs in a row, US and Oz SF, YEC Final). Basically has been almost downhill ever since (With no premier 5 or mandatory, GS finals or better since and falling out of the top ten).
2010- JJ wins. Despite a good follow on season since she hasnt won a title since (in almost 3 years!!!). Fallen out of the top 20 (and even out of the top 30)
2009- Vera wins. Injures ankle and takes more than a year to really recover (falling out of the top 20 in the process). Reaches 2 slams finals and #2 the next year.
2008- Ana wins. Wins upcoming FO but then thats about it (no need to run through the many downs again!) Wins FO indeed.
2007- Daniela wins. Unfulfilled career Makes her best slam result within a year.
2006- Maria wins. Not too sure about curse this time although future serious injury problems? Wins USO.
2005- Kim wins. Not too sure about curse this time although career plagued with injury? Sweeps the HC season, wins USO.
2004- Justine wins then gets Mono. Wins Olympic Gold in 2004.
2003- Kim wins then loses to Justine in the next few slam finals (and injury plagued career). Reaches 2 slams finals and becomes #1 in singles and doubles the same year.
2002- Daniela wins. Unfulfilled career Wins again 5 years later

What do you think?
Except for Woz and JJ who never were that good anyway, IW sounds like a boost.
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Old Mar 15th, 2014, 12:29 PM   #37
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I hope Aga won't ever win IW then
Will Aga be this years lucky recipient?
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I had no idea that Vika hasn't won a title since IW 2012 .
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Re: Curse of Indian Wells

It's exaggerated. Most of these players had a great season the year they won IW.
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I had no idea that Vika hasn't won a title since IW 2012 .
She won several tournaments after IW 2012, including a slam.
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Re: Curse of Indian Wells

For sake of WTA let's hope Agnieszka doesn't inherit some curse.
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I had no idea that Vika hasn't won a title since IW 2012 .
Well, since this was made in fall 2012, maybe he meant that Vika hadn't won a title winning IW earlier in the year. And then, a few weeks after this post was made, Vika won the China Open and Linz.
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For sake of WTA let's hope Agnieszka inherit some curse.
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There's no curse for Miami...when Serena won FIFTEEN majors since she dropped IW and made Miami her tournament of choice.
In fact we can say things have turned out pretty awesome for Serena since ditching that spooky tournament. All the reason we were so worried with her Mandela talk about returning there. God forbid
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