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Sep 21st, 2012, 09:13 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
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Hingis 1997 is better than any Graf season except 1988
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Among others Raymond, Coetzer and Majoli say hi 
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 12:19 AM
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#182
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
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One of the most stupid posts I ever read
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The fuck is wrong with you, troll?
Gangstress is 100% right. This argument has been made thousands of times on this board. It is by far the #1 reason why Graf's credentials as GOAT get called into question. That said, it's obviously bullshit.
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 01:36 AM
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#183
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
Graf is exactly where she should be without being overrated and overlooked! 
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 01:59 AM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
This is a GOAT discussion, those with less than double digit slams should sit the fuck down, yeah Seles fans I'm talking to you. No If, but, and, or bullshit.
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 10:39 AM
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#185
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
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This is a GOAT discussion, those with less than double digit slams should sit the fuck down
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Agree with you!
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 02:02 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
IMO,she is not overlooked.
If she is voted the greatest by so many others,that shows general opinion.She would be overlooked if she wasn't.
Maybe Navratilova or Court can find themselves overlooked due to their doubles and mix doubles achievements,but it's not up to me to decide that,but to general opinion which reflects in voting.
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 02:02 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
This thread still going?
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 02:06 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
Lawl. Graf was lucky to play in such a weak era.
Declined Nav, Opposition bumped off or talentless moonballers.
Retired as soon as the going got tough 
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 02:15 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
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Among others Raymond, Coetzer and Majoli say hi 
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At least in 1997 Hingis didn't lose against Coetzer 6-0 6-1 
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 02:17 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
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At least in 1997 Hingis didn't lose against Coetzer 6-0 6-1 
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True,but if you followed conversation you would figure that we were talking about best seasons,not worst 
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 02:19 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
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Opposition talentless moonballers.
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One of these "weak era talentless moonballers" has a very good record against Serena and a very bad one against Graf.
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 02:27 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
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True,but if you followed conversation you would figure that we were talking about best seasons,not worst 
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Name a better season than Hingis' in 1997, apart from Graf in 1988.
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 03:17 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
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Name a better season than Hingis' in 1997, apart from Graf in 1988.
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1. Steffi Graf 86-2 0.977 1989
2. Steffi Graf 75-2 0.974 1987
3. Steffi Graf 72-3 0.969 1988
4. Steffi Graf 47-2 0.959 1995
5. Martina Hingis 75-5 0.937 1997
6. Steffi Graf 72-5 0.935 1990
etc.
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 03:31 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
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1. Steffi Graf 86-2 0.977 1989
2. Steffi Graf 75-2 0.974 1987
3. Steffi Graf 72-3 0.969 1988
4. Steffi Graf 47-2 0.959 1995
5. Martina Hingis 75-5 0.937 1997
6. Steffi Graf 72-5 0.935 1990
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1987: ABSENT, WIN, WIN, FINAL (Hingis' 1997 >>)
1995: ABSENT, WIN, WIN, WIN (Hingis' 1997 >>)
But I'll give you 1989
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Sep 22nd, 2012, 03:39 PM
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Re: Why is Graf overlooked?
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But I'll give you 1989
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This is not something you, me or anyone give or take...it's official WTA statistic whether we like it or not...
And even if "you give me" just 2 out of 4 better seasons than Hingis, it's still enough to trump hers...
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