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Old Sep 21st, 2012, 01:54 PM   #16
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

^^ Not official because Makarova is still alive but I think it looks good.

To be top 20, that means you should be making the R32 at slams which Varvara is. Plus, she had a great run in the Middle East and at Madrid. Couple that with the inconsistent mess of the tour, Varvara has really come on strong. Her game has improved immensely. If she can improve her serve a little bit more and flatten out her strokes a little more she is going to be VERY tough.

Two Americans in top 20 and 3 once Venus gets a full, real schedule under her belt
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Old Sep 21st, 2012, 01:59 PM   #17
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

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Her game has improved immensely.
Not really. Her draws on the other hand have.
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Old Sep 21st, 2012, 02:03 PM   #18
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

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Not really. Her draws on the other hand have.
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Old Sep 21st, 2012, 02:25 PM   #19
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

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Old Sep 21st, 2012, 02:31 PM   #20
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

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Not really. Her draws on the other hand have.
Yes, she has. But that's what happens with one good event. Your draws improve. Etc. Look at Wozniacki, Schiavone, Pennetta. Once they dip a little, shit hits the fan.

Lepchenko's game is MUCH better. You don't go from hanging on the ITFs to suddenly taking Petrova to a 3rd set TB and taking Sam to a TB on hardcourts.

Will she win slams or go much higher? No but it's OK to congratulate someone for accomplishing this feat.
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Old Sep 21st, 2012, 02:35 PM   #21
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

Lets be thankful its only Top 20, like Peer and Cornet were almost Top 10 They were the dark days of the tour.

I can't see Lepchenko getting even close to the top 10 so its not a total disaster for the tour.
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

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Lets be thankful its only Top 20, like Peer and Cornet were almost Top 10 They were the dark days of the tour.

I can't see Lepchenko getting even close to the top 10 so its not a total disaster for the tour.
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Cornet and Alize with such a limited and poor game almost did it
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

Why do so many people hate lepchenko? She's not a pusher, and she's more consistent than a brainless ballbasher, but is still able to hit a number of winner on the FH side.
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

Agree that top 20 isn't such a big deal, but Lepchenko is still massively overranked considering her abilities and actual accomplishments.

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Why do so many people hate lepchenko? She's not a pusher, and she's more consistent than a brainless ballbasher, but is still able to hit a number of winner on the FH side.
Ugly technique, one-dimensional, unflairsome, doesn't really work the points.

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Lepchenko is reminiscent of Bammer in the sense that she's a lefty journeywoman who is definitely making the most out of her limited abilities, but the player she reminds me the most is probably Greta Arn: well built, physically strong, hits a fairly big ball with a measure of consistency despite crassly rudimentary and fug technique, nothing in the way of flair or point construction, wins by bringing her opponents' level down to her own. She'll probably be around vulturing depleted US hardcourt events and taking advantage of draws falling apart for a few more years.
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

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Why do so many people hate lepchenko? She's not a pusher, and she's more consistent than a brainless ballbasher, but is still able to hit a number of winner on the FH side.
I have no idea. She has a good game. Probably people don't like her because she's American.
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

Fewer injuries. Hard work. Fewer worries about visa issues. Maintaining a fighting mentality on the court, not giving up early. Perhaps better coaching.
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

Goerges is top 20, why can't Lepchenko be .
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

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Varvara Lepchenko started the season well outside the Top 100.

She played solid, came through a lot of qualifying tournaments. But still - I can't believe she's # 21!!

Her best results:


3rd Doha
QF Memphis
QF Madrid
4th French-Open
3rd Wimbledon
QF San Diego
3rd US-Open

Why is this enough for Top 20??
3rd round in both W and US plus 4th in RG along with several Premier QF seems pretty solid for me and near top 20 worthy if you ask me
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

The problem is the WTA points system it gives too many computer points in the earlier rounds. For instance, the ATP Tour computer is superior than the WTA computer. If you look at the ATP points system it is tougher to rise up the rankings unless a player has stellar results. Lepechenko doesn't deserve to be top 20 I see her as more a 25 to 35 ranked player. She's definitely top 40 but certainly not top 20 material.
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Re: Do you get why Lepchenko is almost Top 20??

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The problem is the WTA points system it gives too many computer points in the earlier rounds. For instance, the ATP Tour computer is superior than the WTA computer. If you look at the ATP points system it is tougher to rise up the rankings unless a player has stellar results. Lepechenko doesn't deserve to be top 20 I see her as more a 25 to 35 ranked player. She's definitely top 40 but certainly not top 20 material.
When you have players like Zvonereva and Kanepi ranked in the 11-20 range who are injured, not playing, out of form etc and then Wozniacki and Georges losing 1st round in slams/premiers it gives many players opportunity to take advantage of the draws. Lepchenko has been one of them and she has certainly been more consistent than those ranked behind her which are Penetta, Jankovic and Zheng. who else is supposed to be ranked 20 at the moment? You guys don't seem to realize that the top 10, more specifically the top 4, has been playing at such a high level for most of the year. But outside of that it's been a hot mess. There is only so much that the points system can do.
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