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Old Jun 10th, 2012, 01:34 AM   #61
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Re: Steffi Graf :"Sharapova is a complete player"

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She plays the same one-dimensional game on every surface except for an occasional slide on clay here and there
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Old Jun 10th, 2012, 01:36 AM   #62
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Re: Steffi Graf :"Sharapova is a complete player"

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You just can't help yourself, can you?

What do you mean?
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Re: Steffi Graf :"Sharapova is a complete player"

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She plays the same one-dimensional game on every surface except for an occasional slide on clay here and there
She plays one-dimensional, but she plays a HELL of a one-dimensional game, winning 4 slams.
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Re: Steffi Graf :"Sharapova is a complete player"

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She plays the same one-dimensional game on every surface except for an occasional slide on clay here and there
what's about Nadull and his Wimbledon? did he learnt serve and volley?

what's about Serena and her Roland Garros? or Federer? They all somehow adjusted their game to be able to win this tournaments

But a great number of players didn't managed to do so , that's the difference


Sharapova 2006 or 2008 would have never won FO, now she is significantly better on clay
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Re: Steffi Graf :"Sharapova is a complete player"

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She plays the same one-dimensional game on every surface except for an occasional slide on clay here and there
would you have preferred Serena or Maria winning the FO Matt? I'm just curious? Thanks.
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Old Jun 10th, 2012, 01:47 AM   #66
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Re: Steffi Graf :"Sharapova is a complete player"

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would you have preferred Serena or Maria winning the FO Matt? I'm just curious? Thanks.

I admit this is a tough one but I'd probably chose Serena.


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She plays one-dimensional, but she plays a HELL of a one-dimensional game, winning 4 slams.

I'm not denying that.

In fact, I think this is the best what Pova could have done: Playing HER game on any surface. She has improved her sliding and movement on clay a bit, but let's face it: She'll never have a great slice, variations, volleys, transition game etc.

Other players tried to adjust their game for surfaces they weren't great on (like Lendl at Wimbledon, Becker on clay, or Serena with those slices on clay few years ago), and they all failed. You have to rely on your strenghts and play it as well as possible. If you try to change your game so much so that it would suit a certain surface, your game will break apart.
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Re: Steffi Graf :"Sharapova is a complete player"

In modern women's tennis you don't really need volleys to win, so in that sense Maria does have a complete game. Back then if you couldn't volley you couldn't win. That's not the case nowadays.
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Re: Steffi Graf :"Sharapova is a complete player"

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I admit this is a tough one but I'd probably chose Serena.





I'm not denying that.

In fact, I think this is the best what Pova could have done: Playing HER game on any surface. She has improved her sliding and movement on clay a bit, but let's face it: She'll never have a great slice, variations, volleys, transition game etc.
And name one significant player in the past 10 years apart from Henin and Mauresmo who did have these things

(And no, Azarenka's slice and volleys are nothing more than mediocre, before you try that one.)
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(And no, Azarenka's slice and volleys are nothing more than mediocre, before you try that one.)

At least hers are better

And I'm not denying that there are very few players these days who have a complete game, but Pova is definitely not one of them.
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Re: Steffi Graf :"Sharapova is a complete player"

OMG who cares about having a complete game. There are a lot of players who have complete games, can slice, dice, volley, trick and do magic with their racquets but if they don't have it mentally to be a champion. They don't win.

Maria has it mentally and that's a quality I admire more than anything else. To come back from a career threatening injury and back to No. 1 and with a slam. That's something.

You're not a complete player unless if you have it mentally. So Maria is a complete player. Probably the most complete behind Serena right now.
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OMG who cares about having a complete game. There are a lot of players who have complete games, can slice, dice, volley, trick and do magic with their racquets but if they don't have it mentally to be a champion. They don't win.

Maria has it mentally and that's a quality I admire more than anything else. To come back from a career threatening injury and back to No. 1 and with a slam. That's something.

You're not a complete player unless if you have it mentally. So Maria is a complete player. Probably the most complete behind Serena right now.
Do you think she would have been able to do it in say, the years 2005 - 2008 and not this weak era i.e. when Serena, Venus, Justine, Kim, Davenport etc were playing
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Do you think she would have been able to do it in say, the years 2005 - 2008 and not this weak era i.e. when Serena, Venus, Justine, Kim, Davenport etc were playing
Newsflash: she DID win Slams in 2005-08
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I see not even Steffi herself is safe of being ridiculed by you?
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Newsflash: she DID win Slams in 2005-08
Idiot. You get so much, so wrong, so often

Would she have been able to do it coming back from her career threatening injury in those years.

What a fool you are.

You're most probably so over-excited that you can't even read properly
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Re: Steffi Graf :"Sharapova is a complete player"

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Would she have been able to do it coming back from her career threatening injury in those years.
Would Kvitova have won Wimbledon in those years?

These kind of 'what if' situations are pathetic...not surprising, coming from you, though

You just can't give her credits for finally coming along way to win an elusive slam
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