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Old Feb 13th, 2012, 08:24 AM   #46
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

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Oudin […] has nothing to defend this week, right?
No, 30 points (Memphis 2011). However, live total of 293 ranking points as of 2/20/12 (= out of Top 200) is accurate. Julia Cohen (USA) accumulated 416 ranking points.
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Yi-jing Zhao should have 208 instead of 202.
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Old Feb 13th, 2012, 03:47 PM   #47
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

I believe Caro should have 6465 (counting 280 from Copahagen) and Marion 4965
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Old Feb 13th, 2012, 03:57 PM   #48
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Marion 4965
Bartoli´s ranking must include her second best P5 result (125 points) instead of 16th result (200 points).
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Old Feb 13th, 2012, 04:02 PM   #49
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Same with Caro. Dubai 900 points are replaced by Tokyo 125 points.
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

oh I forgot about that rule
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

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I believe Caro should have 6465 (counting 280 from Copahagen) and Marion 4965
This is the outcome if you calculate according to WTA’s Single Ranking as of 2/13/12 (Wozniacki : 7,085 ./. 900 + 280 = 6,465; Bartoli: 4,890 ./. 125 + 200 = 4,965). But as this table provides not enough information, you cannot calculate ranking points for the next week. If you strip the “next off” amount you will compute this:
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                         GS (4) PM (4) YEC  P5  P5   1   2   3   4   5   6    ø    17th
Caroline Wozniacki       1,840  1,530  370  395 125 470 470 470 320 320 --- 6,310  280
Marion Bartoli           1,660  1,060  ---  225 125 470 320 320 280 230 200 4,890  200
From there you easily can figure out, that both players can only enhance their ranking points total next week, if they advance at least into QF.
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

You get zero even if you are injured?
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

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Bartoli´s ranking must include her second best P5 result (125 points) instead of 16th result (200 points).
Sabine Lisicki (GER) is a new Top 20 Player. As she participates in Doha in her first P5 event as a Top 20 player, her best P5 tournament within the 52 weeks cycle must count on her rankings. Consequently 10 ranking points from 50K Prague should be replaced by 1 ranking point (P5 Cincinnati) and her total is 3,108 points (instead of 3,117 points).
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

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Sabine Lisicki (GER) is a new Top 20 Player. As she participates in Doha in her first P5 event as a Top 20 player, her best P5 tournament within the 52 weeks cycle must count on her rankings. Consequently 10 ranking points from 50K Prague should be replaced by 1 ranking point (P5 Cincinnati) and her total is 3,108 points (instead of 3,117 points).
Those pts dont count until 4 P5 have been played in the calendar year.
Thats how its been done in last few years for new top 20 players and those who went out of top 20
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

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Those pts dont count until 4 P5 have been played in the calendar year.
Thats how its been done in last few years for new top 20 players and those who went out of top 20
Thank's for letting us know how WTA runs their ranking system. According to 2012 WTA Official Rulebook (p 224 & 225) that's not the way it should be done:
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i. New Top 20 Player
As a new Top 20 Player participates in Premier 5 Tournaments, after she participates in her first Premier 5 Tournament, her best Premier 5 Tournament within the 52 week cycle must count on her rankings. After she participates in a second Premier 5 Tournament, her (2) best Premier 5 Tournaments within the 52 week cycle must count on her ranking.
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iii. Former Top 20 Player
A former Top 20 Player’s ranking formula will be gradually adjusted and additional best results from other Tournaments can be used to count towards the players’ ranking once the player’s Premier 5 Tournaments (whether counted torward her ranking or not) begin to drop off. The player’s ranking formula will be completely adjusted after her 2nd Premier 5 Tournament from the previous year drops off.
And from a previous discussion within the preceding “WTA Ranks Update Thread” in May 2011 this is also not the way Meelis expected it is done by WTA:
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Meelis: […] New designated top 20 players […] don´t have to count any P5 results right now. After Toronto they must have at least one P5 result among best 16 and after Tokyo at least two.

Kerbicz: I'm still afraid that your interpretation does not agree with the actual WTA rules. […] This provision implies, quite unambiguously IMO, that a new Top 20 player must already have one P5 tournament (her best P5 result obtained within last 52 weeks) included in her "best 16" tally - on condition she played in Dubai this year. And, if she plays in Rome this week too, she will have to count two P5 results on her ranking, starting Monday May 16th.

Meelis: Like you said, if she played in Dubai and will play in Rome too.
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^ yep they have changed it from how theyve done it before.
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Ying-ying Duan should have 131 instead of 135
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

does Na get a 0 for Dubai (if she withdraws from there)
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^ yes a 0 pointer for Na as it was a commitment tourn.
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Re: WTA Ranks Update Thread

will Vera get a 0 for Dubai ???
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