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Old Oct 6th, 2011, 03:18 AM   #46
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Oh, I guess I should say: Congratulations Caroline on being consistent, healthy, and having the good luck to have the best players be old and injured, and everyone else being headcases!
You might as well congratulate Serena for having the luck not to be playing in the Graf era (where she would've won 2 slams instead of 13)
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Old Oct 6th, 2011, 03:25 AM   #47
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OK so she has 51 weeks but she will have 52 weeks after Linz / Osaka

already much better than her contermpoaries Jankovic, Ivanovic and Safina
Watch it...
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Congrats gurl.
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Old Oct 6th, 2011, 04:14 AM   #49
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But even though she hasn't beaten either one of them doesn't mean that she can't. She was one point away from being back on serve late in the third set against Kim at the YEC. And even though it was at a smaller tournament, she certainly has also given Serena trouble in the past.
I still think if given more opportunities, she can do it.
I have no doubt she can beat them. But, if and when she does, it will be more about their errors than about her having a dominant game. It is impressive that her defense is so good that she can win by keeping the ball in play until her opponent makes an error, but if she put the time and effort into developing some offensive weapons, she wouldn't have to rely on their errors in order to beat them.
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Old Oct 6th, 2011, 04:28 AM   #50
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You might as well congratulate Serena for having the luck not to be playing in the Graf era (where she would've won 2 slams instead of 13)
Right, and we could then congratulate Graf for having the luck that Seles was stabbed so that Graf could win all of her slams....but, you're missing the point....we could go round and round about who is better when comparing players from different eras...but I think with Caro, because of how defensive her game is and how few offensive weapons she has, there would always be players that she is not capable of beating.

Going back to your comment, if you put Serena in the Graf era, I don't think Graf would have dominated Serena to the point that Serena would have only won 2 slams, but if that is all she won, at least that would be 2 slams more than Caro has won. Caro does not control the era that she is playing in, and it is certainly not her fault that this era is weak. But, still, she does have control over her game, and I would think that she would want to develop the weapons to beat the stronger players.

I also want to add that I am not bashing Caro at all...hell, I'm a Clijsters and Stosur and Petko fan, and we all know they have had their issues, so I'm not gonna bash anyone. I really do like Caro as a person, at least based on what we see of her. I think she seems to have a really good personality, and a fun side that I appreciate. But, I would like to see her become a better player. I don't blame all of her problems on her golfer boyfriend like some people do. I think she is just content being where she is, and so happy to be #1 that she doesn't want to, or feel the need to, mess with her game. With Serena and Kim on the way out, she doesn't have to worry about them as much, but if it were me, I wouldn't want to have to depend on other players being injured in order to have a shot at winning a slam.

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Old Oct 6th, 2011, 04:43 AM   #51
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Everything about this is just awful. It's not consecutive. Ugly cake. She looks awful. It's a total mockery of the #1 ranking and the tour...
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Right, and we could then congratulate Graf for having the luck that Seles was stabbed so that Graf could win all of her slams....but, you're missing the point....we could go round and round about who is better when comparing players from different eras...but I think with Caro, because of how defensive her game is and how few offensive weapons she has, there would always be players that she is not capable of beating.
If Caro is capable of having 4 match points against Serena, she's capable of beating Serena.

If she's capable of beating Serena, she's capable of beating anyone.
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If Caro is capable of having 4 match points against Serena, she's capable of beating Serena.

If she's capable of beating Serena, she's capable of beating anyone.
but can she beat Serena? NO
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If Caro is capable of having 4 match points against Serena, she's capable of beating Serena.

If she's capable of beating Serena, she's capable of beating anyone.


Three years ago in Sydney. Please, anytime it matters Serena will murder cup cake.

Just have to realize that Caro's game is her opponent not showing up. Because when they do, she isnt top 5.
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Old Oct 6th, 2011, 05:59 AM   #56
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You might as well congratulate Serena for having the luck not to be playing in the Graf era (where she would've won 2 slams instead of 13)
And Caro would still be slamless AND wouldn't even sniff at no.1, soooo....
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If Caro is capable of having 4 match points against Serena, she's capable of beating Serena.

If she's capable of beating Serena, she's capable of beating anyone.
After their latest match..one has to conclude that if Serena plays just regular, Caroline has NO shot of beating Caro.
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Congrats Caroline. Looking at time spent as #1 for players like Venus W, Sharapova, Safina, Clijsters Vs Caroline's 52 weeks, shows how 'easy' it is to lead the WTA ranking .. Little shame about the one Clijster week this year, but hey, nobody is perfect
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Congrats Caroline. Looking at time spent as #1 for players like Venus W, Sharapova, Safina, Clijsters Vs Caroline's 52 weeks, shows how 'easy' it is to lead the WTA ranking .. Little shame about the one Clijster week this year, but hey, nobody is perfect
Kim deserved that week.
Anyway looks like Caroline could hold onto #1 entering AO. She's the only top 10 player left in Beijing. And even if she bombs against Kanepi her chances of ending 2011 as #1 are high.
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Oh man, that cake. Given that Caro loves to bake herself she could have probably made herself a much nicer one
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