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Old May 22nd, 2011, 05:03 AM   #16
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Re: Changes regarding Order of play

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Old May 22nd, 2011, 07:00 AM   #17
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I will play on a day to day basis, even if I have to be alone with this.
You are not alone.

ma re, I'm sure that you have noticed the confusion for this tourney.

Some people, like me, postes day by day- some have posted 16 matches, others 17.

Poeple who have posted all matches, will probabely not notice if there will be any change in the other days of the first round.

But hey, as I said before, let's have fun.
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 07:14 AM   #18
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Well, you see you can't possibly tip the whole round at once if the matches from different rounds happen in the same day. There still are some matches for the 2nd round, some for the 3rd round.
You're missing something here. If say, on a given day there are

2 remaining matches of R2
5 matches of R3

...you wouldn't be bothered by that cause you would've already tipped the whole R2 the day before anyway, and now you'd tipp for the whole R3. Manager's job would be to sort out which of your tipps are for which day i.e. how much you've scored on a given day.

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Anyway folks, I see we have some very good ideas that would not be difficult to implement. Let's see if people will come up with more of them and we'll see which ones do we like most (in a few days I'll make a poll for the sake of reaching a democratic decision). The decision we make will be used as a rule for future tournaments, but let's just leave this choice of per round/per day tipping for Roland Garros, just so that we don't end up with some mess again - cause the one in a slam could be of enormous proportions considering the size of the draw and the number of players.
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 07:36 AM   #19
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Re: Changes regarding Order of play

Okay, so now it's known Kleybanova has withdrawn from RG (it was already known on Saturday night European time).

Instead of Kleybanova vs Llagostera Vives, it's Pivovarova vs Llagostera Vives. The OOP in the front page still has Kleybanova in the draw, isn't it going to count? Because I think there have been enough time to change it, this match will probably be played on Monday. (Day by day playing would avoid this situation)

And one more thing I'd like to suggest, if the posters see there's a mistake somewhere, they can always send a PM to the poster that made the mistake, so it could be fixed.
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Old May 22nd, 2011, 08:12 AM   #20
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Okay, so now it's known Kleybanova has withdrawn from RG (it was already known on Saturday night European time).

Instead of Kleybanova vs Llagostera Vives, it's Pivovarova vs Llagostera Vives. The OOP in the front page still has Kleybanova in the draw, isn't it going to count? Because I think there have been enough time to change it, this match will probably be played on Monday. (Day by day playing would avoid this situation)
I already posted in the Roland Garros thread (Ralph214 mentioned it) saying that this match will not count, cause several people already posted by the time this change was announced and I can't be sure if I'll be able to contact these people in time. And if I can't, they'd get damaged with this change. Besides, we established even before Brussels that only the initial matches count.
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Re: Changes regarding Order of play

Of course the initial matches should count, but this change was made over 24h before the match would take place, thus I actually disagree about not counting it, because there was enough time to announce about the change (it would be different case if this match was supposed to be played today, and the announcement came yesterday). It's not even about sending a PM to the users that already made their picks, but announcing it in the thread title, and fixing the draw accordingly. I guess it's too late for this now.
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Of course the initial matches should count, but this change was made over 24h before the match would take place, thus I actually disagree about not counting it, because there was enough time to announce about the change (it would be different case if this match was supposed to be played today, and the announcement came yesterday). It's not even about sending a PM to the users that already made their picks, but announcing it in the thread title, and fixing the draw accordingly. I guess it's too late for this now.
I kind of agree. Let's announce,that if a change is published in the threat -24 hours -( or any other time agreed upon ), the match should be counted,
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Old Jun 3rd, 2011, 11:08 AM   #23
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Re: Changes regarding Order of play

Back to this thread again.

I know I mentioned a poll about matters discussed here, but I honestly can't think of a good poll question, that would sum up all this and help us make some decisions.

I like the idea of a co-manager, but not really the idea of an "official OOP poster", cause this person would have to be around for every day of every tournament, throught the whole season - and I don't think we can find someone with so much spare time. Co-manager should IMO be someone chosen by the manager of the tournament in question, someone he/she trusts enough that this person will do a good job and be responsible for his/her actions. This co-manager should reserve one post on the first page, so that he/she can post OOP's if the manager can't do it or doesn't do it right - post must be reserved because no poster can edit someone else's post (i.e. the co-manager can't edit something that manager posts).

We should also by all means stick to the rule of only initial matches counting, cause we simply cannot predict exceptions or even know the exact time a certain match will be played (if it'll be tomorrow, or the day after...). Accepting changes that happen a certain number of hours before the match would just add a lot of confusion, and several people already said that they don't like to constantly check if there have been updates to the OOP, once they've already posted their picks.

So, any opinions on these points? Should we go with the co-manager idea in the next tournament already?

P. S. I have to say that allowing people to post for the entire round (if they choose to do so) made my life easier during the French Open. Scheduling for grand slams is pretty straightforward anyway, so this reduces the number of individual posts and the number of times the manager has to check for new posts. Maybe we should allow this for grand slams?
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